[ SECRET POST #4685 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4685 ⌋

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Comments

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

There is no workable better alternative to capitalism, so everyone should stop talking about them as if they're possible. Your "everyone could contribute exactly what they're able to society and help others and we'd all be happy" utopias would collapse as soon as a small group of people decide no, they're not happy, they want more. And that's exactly how we got capitalism in the first place.

And it's rich that these Tumblr bloggers proposing this utopian solution to capitalism that relies on every individual's inherent goodness are the same people cancelling every individual for the smallest thing. They are more cynical about human nature than anyone I've ever met, except when it comes to their hypothetical anticapitalist ideals.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

Or as soon as a bunch of people decide fuck that, they don't want to contribute, they just want to benefit from everyone else's work, which you absolutely know would happen.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

And this is why a universal basic income is built into most non-capitalist structures people talk about these days.

Look. The hard fact of the matter is: we are slowly automating ourselves into total redundancy. We’re already at a point where a lot of people literally have nothing to contribute. As an example: a person lives in a small town who, for financial reasons, was unable to go to college, and can’t get a good-paying office job because of it. The minimum wage jobs in this town are scarce, and already filled. They can’t afford to leave. Under capitalism, this person would be worthless and likely consigned to homelessness. Under a structure based on socialism, they would have enough to survive. Not the fancy things. But they could live.

I agree that it’s utopian, but it’s literally because we’ve all internalized the “got mine, fuck you” attitude so much that even the lower class pushes down in a desperate attempt to get some kind of upward motion. Meanwhile, billionaires hoard unreasonable amounts of money for the sake a keeping themselves and their families richer than anyone has the right to be.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

I don't agree that full-on capitalism is the only solution, but I also don't think full-on socialism is the way to go. I think we need a mix of both. I think there needs to be strong government controls in place because people are selfish and will take advantage and try to earn as much as they can and not care about anyone else. That's why free capitalism on its own doesn't work. But I don't trust governments enough to be in favor of complete socialism either. There needs to be a system of checks and balances where the average person is protected.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

It's really hard to even respond to this meaningfully because it's not even really an argument. You've looked at the whole topic of political economy and dismissed it because nothing can ever be good because people are mean.

Even if you think that people are mean, there can clearly be massive, massive differences in the way that political economies are structured and organized, because there have been in the past. I don't necessarily care so much about whether your ideal economic system is "capitalist" or "socialist" but I think we need to make massive, radical changes to the specific form of capitalism that exists at present.

Re: Unpopular non-fandom opinions

[(Anonymous)]

It's not like everyone is arguing for full-on communism. Capitalism as it exists currently in America is secured in its ridiculous extents by corrupt influences that could be more strictly regulated. These systems work in other countries at least better than they do here.

You sound like my dad (who decries the liberal suggestion that people can be relied on to do good but denies that capitalism is bad because it allows people to take advantage of others), except defeatist rather than just painfully stupid after a couple of beers.