[ SECRET POST #4690 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4690 ⌋

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Comments

[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Sorry, but...lol? Afraid? Really?

[(Anonymous)]

it's a very normal and commonplace way to phrase the idea that they don't want to get emotionally invested into something, only to subsequently find out that it has some aspect that they absolutely hate

what's your problem with it

[(Anonymous)]

I've never watch YOI but I saw the MC was a bit more chubby in the beginning and... I don't know how it's fatphobic for him to lose weight when he gets back into shape after starting to train again? I think if there had been a long line of characters who made fun of him, I'd have seen 500 tumblr posts about it?

[wannabe_influential]

I've not watched the show but I've seen gifsets and posts about how Viktor, the silver-haired one, spends the first few episodes telling Yuri to lose weight so he 'won't be such a pig' and other characters smack his belly while calling him names, and it's supposed to be funny

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, some little kids and Viktor mock him for gaining weight. Viktor is his coach and Yuri does need to lose weight to get back into top form. It was more like playful jabs not some emotional fucking torment people are imagining.

Leave it to tumblr to get triggered and overreact about the tiniest thing. You don't have to find it funny but this is how humans interact outside your bubble.

[(Anonymous)]

lol "fatphobic".
Are you implying that telling a professional athlete to get in shape is "phobic" now? I don't know what utopia fantasy you live in, but yeah athletes can't be fat unless their weight is a part of the sport. There are no fat ice skaters.

[(Anonymous)]

Making fun of someone for being fat and calling them names is definetely fatphobic.

[(Anonymous)]

It is. Perhaphs you could ask someone to list the fatphobic scenes so you can skip them.

[(Anonymous)]

Me

[(Anonymous)]

First of all the MC was never really portrayed as fat other than a few gag scenes in earlier episodes to show how out of shape he's gotten and how his coach is telling him to get in shape.

Though if you're that easily offended just don't watch anything ever.

[(Anonymous)]

Fatphobic? No way. There's some playful (and rather flirtatious) teasing from Victor to Yuri about his weight in the beginning but never in a "you're ugly and disgusting" kind of way. Yuri absolutely has to lose weight to continue his career as a professional figure skater so there's not really any room for body diversity, so to speak, and frankly Yuri's weight issues are explicitly tied to his anxiety in the narrative. But again, his weight never is portrayed as unattractive or anything. And again, the reason he is pushed to lose weight is so he can be in shape to be a competitive athlete, not so he can be more conventionally attractive or something.

[(Anonymous)]

How is he mocked for his weight in a way that's not negative. That doesn't really make sense to me.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

Advice said to improve his career, and otherwise stating a fact are not fatshaming/phobic.

[(Anonymous)]

So it's advice, not mockery or teasing?

[(Anonymous)]

I won’t deny that there are scenes that are insensitive to Yuuri’s weight, especially since he overeats during depressed episodes, but they’re very early on (no chance of you getting attached and then slammed with fat shaming), and in my opinion, as someone on the wrong side of overweight myself, the series itself is so beautiful and such an homage to loving yourself, despite what you think are flaws, and accepting that others love you unconditionally, you won’t regret it in the end.

I do hope you choose to watch, OP. It isn’t perfect, but it’s one of the greats as far as supporting people who hate themselves and teaching them they deserve all the love.

[osidiano]

When I was in Japan, people commented on weight very openly, and while maybe that was an aspect of culturally sanctioned fat-shaming, it felt very very different to the way Americans comment on weight. Idk how to explain it, but your Japanese coworkers bringing up how you're at your "happy weight" now that you're in a relationship just doesn't feel the same as your American coworkers telling you you've gotten fat now that your partner is feeding you. :\ The stuff about Yuuri's weight in the show is also tied into his general anxiety and low self-esteem; he's a pro athlete, even when he ostensibly quits and is off his game, he's never actually fat.

[(Anonymous)]

The scenes where he looks fat are gag scenes. He doesn't actually have a big belly, no matter how much certain fans try to pretend he does. IRL a non-professional/athlete couldn't tell he had any extra weight, but for a high-level figure skater the few kilos he sheds in a few weeks were too much to be in top shape. Other characters aren't shaming him for being fat, they're noticing that he's not in top shape and then whipping him to get into it.