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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-09 03:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #4691 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 09:19 pm (UTC)(link)
What if they lived in a monoracial country and literally don't know any black person?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 09:22 pm (UTC)(link)
And were also unaware of the existence of Africans in general?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt
They might not be interested in Africans or not find them hot at all. Why'd they want to draw them?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 11:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Then say that. What's being from a monoracial country have to do with that.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt
It means that some asian living among asians has no moral obligation to draw animal characters black like americans seem to be.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I see your point actually. FWIW I think my position is that I don't think people have a moral obligation to draw the characters as black, but if they did have a moral obligation, it wouldn't change based on whether they're in America or Asia. So I was sort of confused why being in Asia would change things.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 11:59 pm (UTC)(link)
I think it'd only be problematic if an artist refuses to draw characters as their own race as it's just too weird.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-10 08:06 am (UTC)(link)
"it wouldn't change based on whether they're in America or Asia."

Id' argue that it does make a difference. If you live in a a country where 99% of people you see and interact with in your daily life are a certain race, and you are not reminded of the existence of people of another race on the other side of the world very often, it makes sense to default to imagining humanized versions of animal characters are being of your race.

But if you live in a racially-diverse country, which up until very recently had a black leader, something's not quite right if you don't notice the existence of other races.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 11:30 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm sorry, barring the racist undertones, what does drawing fanart of Timon and Pumbaa have to do with hotness?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-09 11:36 pm (UTC)(link)
ayrt
What racist undertones, is it a crime to be attarcted to certain looks? A lot of fandom is about hotness so it's connected.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-10 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
When you describe and entire group of people that have been discriminated against for their looks and background as "not hot at all" the racist undertones are... very clear. Finding someone unattractice because they're African is very much racist.

It's about a lot more than just being "attracted to certain looks."

(Anonymous) 2019-11-10 09:29 am (UTC)(link)
I think it's very normal to find a people of a certain race that you never interacted with unattractive. And why'd USA and to a lesser extent EU descrimination bother people in, for example, Asian countries?

(Anonymous) 2019-11-10 02:51 am (UTC)(link)
I like dudes with prominent noses. Often those big-nosed dudes are white, but sometimes they're black and occasionally they're Asian.

That's the difference between being a racist fuckwit and just liking certain things that show up more often in some ethnicities than others.

(Anonymous) 2019-11-10 09:34 am (UTC)(link)
And someone happens to like light skin (in China fare and beauty are synonims), thin nose and lips. It doesn't make them racist.