[ SECRET POST #4695 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4695 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

This is a legitimate criticism. But was there a time when the seasons were cyclical in their world? Because if the whole perma-winter state is relatively recent, then it makes sense that they've maintained their way of measuring time, despite it now being far more arbitrary.

[ninefox]

If there was such a time, presumably it was before the Long Night, and I would have expected the ages which turned the LN to myth should also have seen the measures of timekeeping evolve. And given how central the myth of the LN is to the series overall, I'd expect "good worldbuilding" to involve some textual suggestion that this was the case, rather than you or I spackling over the plot hole ourselves.

And on the other hand, if the magically variable seasons WERE a recent development, I'd expect a lot more...historical legacy of the change. There's SO much history and heritage in GoT but no "AND WHEN THE SEASONS CHANGED, SUCH AND SUCH HOUSE WITH GOOD SILOS GAINED ASCENDANCY, AND THESE OTHER DYNASTIES CRUMBLED, AND THESE ARE THE ONGOING CONSEQUENCES OF THAT BREAK."

Like, I'm not a hater, I think there's some fun stuff in there. But this one thing really ruins the sense of an organic world for me. Everyone seems to act BOTH as if the variable seasons are normal and NBD, and also like regular earth medieval people who have not adapted their entire survival rhythm to this situation. Even the Starks, and it's supposed to be their whole thing. But saying "winter is coming" over and over again is no substitute for touring the smokehouses and making sure they're stockpiling for years in advance, yknow?

OR LIKE. Maybe a year is 12 lunar months. Or 14, thanks to the faith of the seven. Or maybe a "year" is the time it takes a human child to gestate, which would be a natural longer measure than days/weeks. But Martin doesn't tell us any of these things. He doesn't appear to have thought about it at all, as far as I know.

[(Anonymous)]

Don't expect such logic. The series exists for rape fantasies & bloodbaths.

[(Anonymous)]

This. Let's not pretend this series is so popular because of its brilliant writing.

[(Anonymous)]

You haven't read it, have you

[(Anonymous)]

Now, now, let all the hipsters and haters have their fun. It's not often they get to tell everyone how SO above a series they are.