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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-11-15 06:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #4697 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4697 ⌋

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OP

(Anonymous) 2019-11-16 05:02 am (UTC)(link)
I get that, but Batman's whole purpose is that he doesn't kill people because he knows what it's like to be the one left behind. He doesn't murder, he doesn't kill. Not to those who do wrong, and especially not to someone like Superman especially.
It's not about PTSD, or any kind of trauma. It's just a severe misunderstanding of the character and what he stands for... Not every victim needs to go on a murderspree to learn the value of life. Having a single name be that spectacularly stupid breaking point is the worst way to bring that narrative home.
Realistically, the moviemakers just realized both of their mother's had the same name, and wanted to show a 'hey guess what' moment in the most idiotic of fashion...
aka bad writing, with a topping of 'does not know the characters involved', mixed with a hard shot of premium bullshit.
There's having pure OOC fun, like with the Micheal Keaton movies. And there there's Batman Vs. Superman, where, honestly... What was even the point?

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(Anonymous) 2019-11-16 05:22 am (UTC)(link)
+100
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Re: OP

[personal profile] rosalinecapulet 2019-11-16 05:45 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly I kinda took a similar "pure ooc fun" angle with this movie because I went in knowing that this was an adaptation of specifically Frank Miller's Batman. So for me it's less "does not know the characters involved" and more "you've chosen to adapt what I consider the worst possible base version of the character but at least you're doing what you set out for I guess." (Which is also how I view the "especially not to someone like Superman" thing, which normally would be true but this version of Bruce does have a much more legitimate reason to think of Clark as a threat than most others, so stupid and contrived as it might be for them to have such instant hateboners, I do kinda understand through the lens of Batfleck's characterization.)

For me it also helps that it's called out in-universe a few times that the level of violence is unusual for this version of Bruce, which allows me to think of this movie as just one stop on what would've probably been a longer arc for Bruce with the original plan. Definitely not what I would've chosen for the character in a million years, but I was just glad they tried, both to give Bruce an arc in a movie this packed and to take his character somewhere new even if it's maybe not the best territory. Which I guess brings me to my real problem with this "their moms have the same names" line, it dismisses the idea that there could be something interesting going on here, or at least an attempt at something interesting.