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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-12-02 06:32 pm

[ SECRET POST #4714 ]


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(Anonymous) 2019-12-03 11:34 am (UTC)(link)
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John Gilbert was veto'd the minute he was filmed in sound. It was one of the many results of the films that attempted to transition from the silent to talkie era. Singing in the Rain isn't one of those films caught up in that transition, not even in the slightest. You're confusing reality with the movie it seems.
It's entire plot is about deceiving an old starlet by dubbing her over with a younger and more approving voice. It's not a satire, it's one of a hundred musicals made to make a profit. The code didn't come in until well past talkies became mainstream, Singing in the Rain has nothing to do with who or why someone was hired. The silent era was very much more tolerant of who they cast, if only because there was no punishable law against it. (check the blacklist for starters) You might even want to check your reference because both Gene, and Donald O'Connor especially we known to use racism as a point in their comedy acts.
Hollywood was extremely different back then.
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2019-12-05 09:39 am (UTC)(link)
I actually think you're mistaking the conversation. I'm not confusing reality with the movie. the first part of my comment was in reply to an anon who responded to my assertions that defending Lina as somewhat justified was funny considering where her anger was actually directed in the musical with a response implying that I was laughing at John Gilbert's career. If Gilbert had the same choices as Lamont, be dubbed now, paid now, and replaced later or ruin your and everyone else's careers, I would tell him to suck it up too.

the second part of my comment was the idea that someone should be sympathetic to anyone who engaged in a career based on perceived attractiveness getting booted with new technology is interesting when presumably those entertainers never had a problem with whole swaths of the population being excluded when those entertainers wanted to succeed. i don't think you can be surprised when a wave you were riding crashes on you too. and you can say whatever the hell you want about pre-code productions, but don't pee on me and tell me its raining wrt racial inclusion. just because post-code was much worse doesn't me pre-code was any good. talking like minstrels shows, and movies with pickanninies weren't running at the same damn time and birth of a nation wasn't a whole damn hit, fuck outta here.