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⌈ Secret Post #664 ⌋

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People aren't "turned gay" or "turned straight," but people can recognize bisexuality (or even a complete flip of their perceived sexuality) while having considered themselves one or the other in the past. And I think it's hard to say for certain any character's sexuality unless it specifically is made a plot point. A male character who only expresses an interest in female characters is not necessarily canonically straight, it just means he has a strong canonical lean towards women. People can be mostly attracted to one gender and find just one, two, or a handful of people of the other gender that they ever find attractive in their lifetimes.

You'd have to be more careful to keep the character IC, it's true! A woman-chaser being ~~gay in a fic~~ put into a slash pairing for fic (lol edited because of the fail in that phrasing) takes finagling for it to not seem OOC, but in the end, the character trait for that character is that they are a woman-chaser -- not that they are only ever attracted to women ever, with no exceptions. Simon ICly is a typical boy with a strong leaning towards women, but I don't think it's an impossibility that he could ever be attracted to a man.

Edited 2008-10-31 05:39 (UTC)

But that is a rather weak strawman argument...

Uh... exactly how so? I don't see how it's a straw man when I know guys who are almost 100% only attracted to women who know of one or two males they would hit. I personally had to totally rethink my sexuality from heterosexual to lesbian in the course of just a couple years. It happens. It's not just a case of "only attracted to males," "only attracted to females," or "attracted to both genders equally all the time."

But Simon is a character that grew as a straight man to his 40-year-old birthday. :/

We all know Simon is a special case due to how much of his personality was defined by Nia and his love for her, too.

Well, to be fair, Simon is a character that grew as a straight man to the point where he met Nia, then became Nia-sexual to his 40-year-old birthday. XD Him having eyes for no one but her, male or female, doesn't totally say anything about his sexuality except "OMG NIA." Also, by my comment there, I wasn't specifically addressing Simon and Kamina/Simon, just in general. However...

Simon is definitely a special case, and I do think it's harder to write him believably in a relationship with someone other than Nia during the points in canon where she is in the series. If he had not met her, however, I think all bets would be off. Fic taking place before he met her or after her death, too, has much more possibility. And I am totally of the opinion that if either Simon or Nia had expressed interest in other people while at the same time being together, in the end, the other would be okay with that. (Can you see Nia begrudging him that, seriously?) Again, all of this would have to be AU, but it could be written in a very IC manner as long as authors take into account some major points about Simon's personality and his relationship with Nia.

Plus, in the end, I have to echo something I said yesterday: even if it is OOC not to have Simon with Nia, it does not make the character completely OOC. Not 100%, not by a long shot. So if a fan just wants to have fun pairing Simon with someone else (Kamina, Rossiu, Yoko, doesn't really matter), they can still keep Simon in character in every other way up to that point.

Tangentally, I'd love to see someone write two male characters in an OTP, romantic relationship, but make a point to have them never have sex. Ever. That way people can stop complaining that it's always "omg just all about the buttsex!"

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