[ SECRET POST #4724 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4724 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I mean... on the one hand I get you, girl/womanhood can look like a lot of different things and it's telling that ONLY certain characters get trans/NB headcanons...

But on the other hand, as a nonbinary person who got a Feeling they didn't have the words for watching Mulan (and who still cries every time they hear 'Reflection'), like... A lot of us are only doing this because those are the characters we see ourselves in, and those are the stories that resonate with us, and there just aren't a wealth of canonically trans characters, let alone canonically non-binary trans characters, to choose from. So we apply those headcanons to the characters whose experiences reflect ours.

Because there are so few canon nb characters, and the ones that do exist are often in non-mainstream media-- in indie titles, or shows that are only on a single streaming platform, or just things that get buried in favor of promoting other stuff, and characters who ARE in mainstream titles might have that aspect of their character shoved down or argued over or ignored when writers change, we CAN'T all find characters to relate to who are canonically non-binary. We might not see the thing they're in or we might not like it and the pickings are slim.

I get the frustration that it's only the 'tomboy' characters who get this treatment (or the 'effeminate' male characters, which is also an issue-- plus you see the reverse, where a character who IS revealed to be non-binary is then described as much more 'gender non-conforming' by the fandom than they appear in canon). But we're looking for something, and until we have as many characters to choose between as everyone else, this is what we've got.

[(Anonymous)]

Animated Mulan is a weird choice because it really leans into the camp implications of doing a musical about crossdressing. I mean, casting Harvey was no accident.

But... GNC -> trans is a reasonably common trajectory, and it's really not an accident that some nonbinary advocates have history with butch or gay femininity.

[(Anonymous)]

Like, there's a lot I feel I have nothing particularly intelligent to say about, just because I was a small child when I saw it? But I feel like there's a lot there, and I feel like it should be totally acceptable for different people to come away with different thoughts and feelings!


I will say, with Mulan, like... it's not just 'oh, this character dressed as a man and therefore I'm projecting this', because she had an external reason. It's 'this character has a strong relationship with her father whom she loves, which I can relate to, and also, struggles both with performing traditional femininity to the standard asked of her AND with performing masculinity in the way that's expected of her-as-Ping, and just needs to be accepted for who she is, with the skills and knowledge she has, which is a feeling I can also relate to'.