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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-12-22 04:16 pm

[ SECRET POST #4734 ]


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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-12-22 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
Eh. If traveling in time means nothing at all, and nothing actually changes or can be affected....what's the point of it? Seems like that just locks you into the plot that happened, no matter what.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-22 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
The point is telling the story of how events unfolded. It's about the journey, not the destination.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-12-22 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, if you have someone running around frantically doing this or that or the other, only to have everything all end up exactly the same, that's just frustrating and irritating.

I don't car for that kind of 'journey'.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-22 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
That's fine. It's not for everyone. That doesn't mean it's pointless or invalid as a framing device for a story.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-12-22 10:57 pm (UTC)(link)
To me, it is, but of course, you do you.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2019-12-22 11:11 pm (UTC)(link)
On Babylon 5 there is a sense of urgency in how they do it. They have to go to the past because they have already been, and their are obstacles along the way. And then they have to say goodbye to an important character, someone they all love, because he is destined to remain in the past and become an important legendary figure. At some points they even hear audio coming through the rift in time from an alternate history where they didn't go back and the heroes lose the war because of it. So there are ways to make it work.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-22 11:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I completely agree. What's the point of including time travel at all if nothing is changed?

This sort of thing annoys me. It reinforces the concept of fate which means everyone's actions and choices are completely meaningless.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2019-12-22 11:57 pm (UTC)(link)
This exactly. Watching or reading this kind of plot line makes me depressed and a bit angry. It's...just not the kind of story I enjoy at all.

(Anonymous) 2019-12-23 01:52 am (UTC)(link)
I think it depends on how the story is done, even if the past can't be changed it doesn't necessarily mean that there's no point. I think the series Gargoyles did this pretty well in their time travel episodes -- one particularly that comes to mind involves Goliath meeting two gargoyles who recognize him despite his never having met them before, and they claim that some 50-ish years ago he left with one of their friends who never returned. The assumption is their friend died, so Goliath goes back in time to try and save him, only to realize that time is immutable and the character can't go home because in history he never came home...so Goliath just brings him along back to the future instead.