[ SECRET POST #4738 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4738 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

Transwomen are women. Women-only spaces are for women. I don't know where we're losing you.

I have close female friends whose biology keeps them from eating food I like, and whose socialization has little in common with my own--do we need to have conversations and shaming about that too? As has been stated multiple times in these threads, biology exists--it just doesn't matter in a social context as much as transphobes like you seem to think it does.

Also regarding athletes: are we going to start policing other people with biological advantages, like Michael Phelps? What about cis women like Caster Semenya who has been subjected to truly awful treatment in every way because her natural testosterone level happens to be high? There is a greater conversation to be had here but pinning it all on the existence and treatment of trans people is a scapegoat and nothing more.

[hey_hey_hey]

Why do people keep bringing up Michael Phelps when people voice concerns about transwomen participating in sports. He's competing against other elite male athletes, it's apples and oranges.

I'll listen to actual competitive female athletes over someone who says it doesn't affect them one way or the other. But they're just a bunch of bitter Betties, cause biology doesn't matter, right?

[(Anonymous)]

Part of the reason that Michael Phelps is an elite athlete is because he has intrinsic biological genetic advantages over his competitors. And it's not really clear how to draw a bright line between one kind of biological genetic advantage and another. A significant part of what elite athletics is testing is the biological genetic differences between competitors. The way that we differentiate different classes of competitors is based on what's most useful and productive for the sport in question, on what we regard as a fair division. And there's no real compelling reason to think that trans women athletes have an unfair structural competitive advantage derived simply from the fact of their being trans, so there's simply no justification for differentiating them as a class of competitor. The mere fact of having a biological genetic difference between two competitors is not in itself enough to justify differentiating, and a trans athlete winning a competition is not enough to justify concluding that they won because of an unfair competitive advantage.

[(Anonymous)]

So what about Semenya then? Bullshit genetic testing has made things worse for her, not better.