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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2019-12-31 06:22 pm

[ SECRET POST #4743 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4743 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-01-01 12:12 am (UTC)(link)
I agree with your take, but a lot of subtext has historically been intentional

(and also, whether it's intentional doesn't matter imo, an interpretation is correct to the precise extent that it's textually supported)

(Anonymous) 2020-01-01 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
nowhere near as often as fandom thinks though, and certainly not in any of those 'subtexty' shows/movies, it's just delusional fan-thinking and that's it.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-01 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
I agree that subtext-y fandom-y things usually aren't intentionally subtextual. I'll say that.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-01 08:17 pm (UTC)(link)
lol "subtext" is so lazy and people need to stop pretending like it's something worthy of praise. It's literally just bait but when pressed for serious commentary they always back down because the fear of the backlash of homophobes.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-01 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

subtext is something that is entirely dependent on the time-period for me, if it's say a 20 year old+ piece of media, yeah i'll probably forgive any gay-content being subtext bc the likelihood they had to mess around with restrictions of the time is high, so i can forgive that. or if it's media from counties that still HAS censorship issues wrt gay-content.

but now? in 2020? in the north-west especially? no, 'subtext' gets nothing from me bc all you're doing it toeing the line so that homophobes won't get mad, or you want to string a subset of fans along with the promise of something you'll never deliver on, bc you don't actually want to. and that can fuck off.

(or what is also likely: that 'subtext' doesn't actually exist and it's just 2 dudes standing next to one another that fandom has declared 'gay' despite them having canon FEMALE love-interests, like snooooooooore to that tbh)

lgbt stories get to be in your face and every bit as explicit as hets have had for decades, and if you're not going to do that then you can piss off and i'll go look elsewhere for media that actually TRIES.