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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-03 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4746 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4746 ⌋

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[Devil May Cry]


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[Star Wars, Berserk]


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[personal profile] a_phoenixdragon 2020-01-04 12:32 am (UTC)(link)
You do have a point. I did like how they confirmed Dante's Dante-ness throughout childhood, but we got a deeper glimpse of his brother and a bit more context. It truly explains a lot about Vergil - and it makes him a more relate-able and sympathetic figure. Something I very much enjoyed and happily bantered about with my husband on fic that may be drawn around V/Vergil when he was younger. And his motives and actions re-imagined/examined in the later games.

Though I am very happy to admit I want to have my cake and eat it, too, though - I cannot lie about that.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 02:23 am (UTC)(link)
I think the problem is you can't have that development in nearly a satisfying way without this. Vergil cutting out his human side made a lot of problems, but it also forced him to acknowledge he was, indeed, half of both worlds.
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[personal profile] a_phoenixdragon 2020-01-04 08:03 pm (UTC)(link)
True. You have gotten me on this (though I do love alternate universes and would happily dabble in the Nero/V twins thing - it would not have half of the satisfying explanations for Vergil and his motives and how he thinks). Vergil thought he could become a god by cutting out his human side. This wasn't the only reason, though. Pain and anger were motivators - and got in the way of ambition. Then there is that pesky prophecy thing - and he wasn't doing so hot before he split himself in two. V was forced to carry whatever weakness had consumed Vergil, though it took a while to catch up. One of the major issues of dividing himself, was forgetting why he did so in the first place (there are SO many reasons on this) - thereby rendering his rise to power moot. V's decision (was that decision made by Vergil before they split, did V make it on his own? He had a lot of information that we never got to see - death cannot have been the big motivator to reunite the two halves) gave him the power he had been building, putting the prophecy back on track with a huge advantage over Dante and giving him info on his supposed enemies and insights into their motives and ways of combat without having to fight them to get this data.

Yes...I likely wandered in this response - and I have over-thought all of this waaaaayyyyy to much.

TDLR; I agree. You have hit the nail on the head beautifully here. That being said, indulging in a little Alternate Universe wishful thinking doesn't hurt. I don't think the OP wants to negate the impact of Vergil and his character development. They just love V and would have liked seeing the twins thing play out from a different perspective. Not to mention the fun drama of twins (Dante-Vergil) and its implications (prophecy?) being played out all over again for the next generation.