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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-03 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4746 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4746 ⌋

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[Devil May Cry]


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[Star Wars, Berserk]


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(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
The movie does not give you any indication at all that she's going anywhere else.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 02:00 am (UTC)(link)
It certainly doesn't indicate she's staying! (No shoveling out the sand and fixing up the place, etc.) It doesn't indicate anything specific about her future.

I, for one, don't believe Poe would let her keep BB8 if she's just going to stay on Tatooine for the rest of her life.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
It's true, it doesn't tell us she's staying either. My problem is more that it doesn't really give is closure on much with Rey as a character.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 03:47 am (UTC)(link)
(Anon you initially replied to)

I absolutely don't think it's intentional by the scriptwriters (because they are idiots), but the scene lead me to believe she is staying there.

1. There is no reason for her to be on Tatooine. Rey buries the lightsabers on a planet that Luke and Leia (and Anakin, since it was his lightsaber before Luke and Rey) despised.

2. Unlike Luke, who also has a solemn moment at the end of ROTJ, Rey is alone. Finn and Poe, who were both close to Leia (especially Poe), aren't there to pay their respects. For a character who has always searched for belonging with other people, it's a strange choice.

3. Poe has loaned out BB-8 for long periods of time before. The TROS Visual Dictionary states that BB-8 is basically Rey's droid when Poe isn't flying missions.

4. BB-8 has been to shown to pilot things on his own before, so he could have been there to fly the Falcon back to the Resistance.

5. Rey reverts to childlike behavior we saw her show on Jakku.

6. She doesn't correct Pushy Lady about occupying the Lars homestead.

7. Instead of leaving Tatooine, the final shot is of Rey looking at the binary sunset. This is a callback to the scene in ANH where Luke is "resigned to his fate" (per the script) of never getting off the planet.

8. The piece of music playing over this scene is called "A New Home".

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 09:32 am (UTC)(link)
Side note about "Rey always searching for belonging with other people" - it's so wierd, but I almost think that they managed to fuck up this too? (together with the supposedly deep friendship she has with Finn) Not only was she very quick to jump on giving Kylo a chance (in TLJ, when it was like 3 days after him almost killing Finn in a lighsaber battle and killing Han which Rey liked), but in TRoS she basically left Finn on that Starship in the middle of the waves without a single glance, seamingly not caring about his safety at all? It's like her Kylo/force obsession took over teh rest of her motivations. I almost thought that it was deliberate buld-up for her to be tempted to the dark side, but if it was - it wasn't well articulated.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Rey is shown to be very impulsive and compassionate, but also someone who avoids her fears. When she arrives on Ahch-To, she already has a lot of doubt in herself as a Force user, hence why she asks Luke to save the Resistance rather than train her. When Luke disappoints her and Kylo exposes Luke's shame, Rey's compassion is directed to Kylo. She impulsively goes to him because of her vision when they touched hands. ("You'll turn. I'll help you.") Rey still doesn't believe in herself and she thinks Ben will take up Luke's mantle. When he doesn't turn, she's forced to stop coddling her fears about her abilites and save the Resistance herself.

I have no explanations for TROS. That movie was a mess.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 07:41 pm (UTC)(link)
But even when she's so disappointed in Luke (and she definately was, I agree on that) and open to hearing Kylo out, I do still think there should be more resistance in her to believing in him and his potential to turn good, because there's really very little time passing between FA and TLJ and she saw him kill her friend, his own father, (when he was offering him unconditional forgiveness, basically for no reason), and try to kill her and almost kill her (that last one could be the easiest to disregard here). It just felt like she forgot it all too easily and went in a bit too naively for someone who grew up the way she did. It would work perfectly if she had less direct contact with Kylo in the previous movie/was unaware of him killing Han, etc, or if she had some additional reason to trust him than just that one touch of hands in the force vision.

(Frankly speaking, I'm so really not into them as a pair, but her getting a crush on him somewhere around that time is almost the only plausible explanation...)

And yes, it all still does make way more sense than TROS, that's for sure.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 05:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see her claiming the place as her home, but that doesn't mean she's going to isolate herself there forever as a hermit a la Obi Wan or Luke. She's used to deserts and doesn't really have anywhere else to call home, so it's not crazy she would want it as a home base.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
That's really depressing, honestly. Rey likes green planets. She (supposedly) has a found family with her friends. And she's going to live in an abandoned homestead on a backwater desert planet? Poor Rey.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 08:19 pm (UTC)(link)
The whole Tatooine ending is pure fanservice of the worst kind - it is a direct nod to elements taken out of the old canon, but makes no sense on the character level.

If we go from Rey's POV, than Luke first disappointed her as a teacher greatly and than sort of made up for it before dying and Leia supposedly continued her training for some unspecified length of time and they acctually got along well. It would be more logical for her to commemorate Leia than Luke; even her death is fresher in Rey's mind. But Leia has no connection to Tatooine, so we wouldn't be able to finish the story where we started with the New Hope.(And then there's the whole Kylo/Ben connection/romance she's got going in TLJ/TROS; he turned good, kissed her and then died. It would make some sense for her to commorate him, but again, he probably never was on Tatooine, so the problem remains the same and here we go, commemorating Luke it is because he's the most important one to fans).

Don't get me started on the idea of her staying in that forsaken place alone - i see your logic, I refuse to accept it :(