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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-03 06:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #4746 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4746 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Devil May Cry]


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[Star Wars, Berserk]


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07. [WARNING for discussion of transphobia]

















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(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 06:24 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree that supporting material should not prop up the films. I thought you were interested in more info, which is why I mentioned the comics.

I feel that Ben's motivation for turning to the dark side was in the films. Leia "sent him away" and says that Snoke was there from the beginning (not a normal childhood), we see a fucked up relationship between Snoke and Kylo, and the Luke/Ben stuff was thoroughly examined. We'll have to agree to disagree there.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-04 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
AYRT

I appreciated the response, but yes, I'm aware that there's some supplementary material for this, I was mostly venting my frustration with the core material :)

I guess we just have a different idea for what's sufficient, because we seem to more or less agree on what was shown in the films. It's just not enough for me if I'm supposed to treat the characters as humans not sketches of characters/pure archetypes. I mean, I know they said that the evil influence was there from the very beginning, but that could mean a /lot/ of things (from total brainwashing to an equivalent of a space text message once a year), and again doesn't solve my "how did he go from personal betrayal to justifying killing peoples in hundreds". I like to know why people do things and I would prefer the reason not to be a short summary edition in which the Luke's betrayal is the /only/ chain of clear action-reaction that makes some sense? The rest is the origin story along the lines of "this whole dark side thing, it's like a space virus, you contract it by standing close to Snoke, and once it's there, you can't walk away, unless your mum does some magic trick, cause choices don't matter" /sorry, venting again; it's just such a waste of character and actor./

TLDR - Indeed, we have to agree to disagree on this :)