[ SECRET POST #4758 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4758 ⌋

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[The Witcher]


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[Mass Effect Trilogy]


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[Emma (2020)]


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[Saiyuki]














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Comments

[fscom]

02. https://i.imgur.com/KrelSMY.png
[The Witcher]

[(Anonymous)]

Witcher spoilers below!!

Agreed! As someone not familiar with the books/games, I was drawn to Renfri right away. She was just so strong, elegant and sensual. I was really hoping she'd come back somehow and be a lead, what a shame that she was only an introduction. Seriously fell in love with her right away, which was nice because I was so confused about everything else going on in the story, haha.

And yes, incidentally, I also agree she's hotter than Yennefer - who I actually liked a lot more pre-transformation, but that could be because her personality got so sour. (I liked her in the final episode, though, when she stopped being such an asshole.)

[(Anonymous)]

I actually got a 'I'm not like other girls' vibe right away and I never really cared for her.

[nightscale]

I thought she was hot, but we barely got to know anything about her so my ability to give much of shit when she died wasn't really there, I liked her fight vs Geralt because it looked great, but it had no emotional pull for me because they banged in the woods once before trying to kill one another, like you've got to try just a bit harder show.

Tbh that was probably my biggest issue with the show: the character relationship building was very spotty and expected me to care about relationships we saw for 5 mins as if they were The Greatest Thing and I mostly just felt like I was missing a lot of information. Hopefully s2 does better with that for me.

[(Anonymous)]

From what I've seen of the games and the stories, it's about 25% "they banged in the woods once before trying to kill each other" and about 25% "they tried to kill each other once in the woods before they banged." ;)

[nightscale]

Well at least it's consistent I guess. :P

[esteefee]

hahahah!

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a little disappointed that they didn't add her little bit of precognition...that was the moment that broke my heart. They missed a great moment!

[(Anonymous)]

She was the better part of the first episode. Otherwise, it was tough for me to watch.

[(Anonymous)]

Same. I also found her more sympathetic.

Yennefer has a tragic backstory of rejection, but she became entirely unsympathetic to me. It was her choice to trade away her fertility for beauty (and tbh she doesn't look as breathtaking as I'd expect from someone magically beautiful) and it was her choice to pick a life at court, where people are being used for power, over walking away with the man who asked her to be with him. She made her choices, and then she decided to take it out on the world and use and hurt people that they didn't make her happy.

Renfri on the other hand also has a tragic backstory, but she never had any choice in it. There was no walking away for her, because an immortal powerful sorcerer would have come after her no matter how far she went. Renfri objectively did worse by having her bandits kill innocents to try and get her hands on Stregobor than Yennefer did mind-controlling people into doing things for her that resulted only in injury and humiliation rather than death, but Renfri had the better motive by far. The man who had chased her since she was born, who all her life had been trying to kill her because she was born, had to die so she could live. In the end, she went after him in self-defense.

Though, to be fair, if she had lived and not had to face any consequences for the deaths of the innocents, then I'd probably judge her for that the way I judge Yennefer for her actions. But Renfri died. Neither she nor the narrative had a chance to deal with what she did. We'll never know how things would have played out, but Renfri died a, well, not hero but interesting character with potential whose story I would have liked to see more of, before she could live to become a character I judge and am annoyed by.

[(Anonymous)]

[Yennefer] became entirely unsympathetic to me.
But isn't that the point? I don't think we're meant to like Yennefer. My impression is that she's going to be Zuko: an antagonist who's going to be redeemed at some point, but for now does some shitty things, and while we do not condone her behavior, we can at least see where she's coming from.

[(Anonymous)]

DA - yeah, it’s pretty obvious that the audience isn’t meant to be cheering on Yennefer’s midlife crisis. Honestly, it’s kind of refreshing to see a storyline in Western media where both the audience and everyone in universe realizes that a main character’s pregnancy quest is stupid and destructive.

[(Anonymous)]

DA

I'm just tired of modern fantasy with entirely unsympathetic main characters. Can we go back to fantasy with at least one character I can root for, please.

[(Anonymous)]

That's the reason I didn't make it far in GoT, but I don't think the Witcher has that problem. I do like two of the three main characters (Geralt and Ciri), and while Yennefer is not a good person, I am intersted in her and in a way root more for her than the other two. The fertility quest to me reads like just the latest flavor of trying to find a purpose in life. Yennefer had no purpose on her family's farm, had none at school, was promised a position at a court where she was supposed to advise the king, then that position was taken from her and so she broke the rules to take it back. But after 30 years, that job, too, became mundane, so Yennefer, who doesn't age and still has a long life ahead of her, started to look for a new purpose – and fixated on being a mother. I think her characterization is an interesting counterpoint to Geralt, who has his own quarrels with his purpose and Destiny, and probably Ciri in the future, who I guess has to find her own purpose.

The writing on that show is flawed, but imo, the main characters and their overall motivations are done well.

Major book series spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

Yes, they're setting up a parenthood/mentor relationship between Yennefer and Ciri. I suspect part of the problem with Season 1 is that it's adapted from short stories set before the big Yennefer/Ciri/Geralt saga gets rolling.

Re: Major book series spoilers

[(Anonymous)]

I've just started the books so I'm not going to read your reply. >__< Sorry!

[(Anonymous)]

Yes! Renfri is a cool character, and I'd have loved to see more of her.

I started listening to the audio books on youtube. The Witcher started as collections of short stories, and Blaviken/Renfri is one of them. If you're interested, you can listen to it here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hHc8LSVWcVQ&t=9920s
It's 85 min long. I recommend it, because it clears up some stuff that I didn't get from the episode.