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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-01-15 06:38 pm

[ SECRET POST #4758 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4758 ⌋

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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-01-16 12:16 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think that's what he's doing. I think he's saying that his adaption won't be making Dracula sexual. He's saying the focus is on the homicide, which is the point of the term bi-homicide. He's not removing the queer aspect because the bi is still there. I think it might just be a faithful adaption where Dracula uses his the methods he uses in the books to get what he wants from people of all genders. Moffat is just making the point that Dracula's purpose isn't sex, it's murder. He's a serial killer, not a lover.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-16 12:17 am (UTC)(link)
Saying that Dracula is bi-homicidal absolutely does not read as keeping the queer element to me, regardless of if the word 'bi' is still present, because it reads as completely sesexualizing the character.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-16 12:18 am (UTC)(link)
SA this should say desexualizing obviously
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-01-16 12:24 am (UTC)(link)
Dracula can't be desexualized, IMHO, because he wasn't sexualized in the book in the first place. That's where we are disagreeing. He's bi in the sense of going after all sorts of victims. But he's not in any way sexual. He's homicidal. He's murderous and demonic. He gets off on the pain and suffering of others. He's not a sexual being. He uses eroticism to get what he wants. But he himself isn't sexual. It is other adaptions that have sexualized him in a way he simply wasn't originally, and it is Moffatt that is going back to the original version.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-16 12:39 am (UTC)(link)
I just disagree with you that reading Moffat's statement as very specifically limited to talking about the internal motivations and thought process of Dracula is the most natural or reasonable thing to do. I don't thinm were going to convince each other on this.

(Anonymous) 2020-01-16 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
DA

Somehow I think the point is, Moffat intends to capitalize on the eroticism of Dracula biting both woman and men (queer-baiting with all those gasp, oh! ahhhhhhh! sexy death scenes) but then has to blatantly no-homo Dracula himself because Reasons. No gays will be depicted here! No no no! Okay, whatever. We weren't worried about it, you ass. Your homophobia is showing.

Just fucking let someone else who isn't afraid of what the text is make the show if you're so afraid of Dracula being branded as bi, you turd.

Sorry. He really ticks me off.