[ SECRET POST #4763 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4763 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[A Royal Night Out]


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[The Witcher]


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[His Dark Materials]


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[Fruits Basket]


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[Slayers]


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[Gary Sinise as Mac Taylor in CSI: NY]


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[Sailor Moon, Tokyo Mew Mew, Magic Knight Rayearth]











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Comments

[fscom]

01. https://i.imgur.com/w3oBWX3.jpg

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, there's a lot wrong with the way Nelson and his mom are written.

[philstar22]

What exactly are they going for with Nelson anyway? On any other show, the bully who turns out to come from a poor and abusive home would be a storyline about character depth and showing that even bullies can be sympathetic. But this is the Simpsons we are talking about. Are we supposed to be mocking poor people? Believing that poor people are nasty people as kids and adults and that's why their poor?

I just don't get Nelson. The Simpsons is good with commentary a lot of the time (or it used to be anyway). But I never understood the juxtaposition of Nelson as bully and Nelson as poor, abused kid.

[(Anonymous)]

I mean, I stopped watching the Simpsons years ago, but even in the 90s there were multiple episodes where Nelson's a sympathetic character. I'd hope that most people would see Nelson as a kid who's been failed by the system, rather than as a reason to mock poor people.

[(Anonymous)]

No, but there are multiple characters in that universe who are poor, alcoholic, or depressed and they reset back to that state even if they appear to have worked through something and improved their situation in an episode. I don't see why he should be an exception. Lots of kids are raised in poverty IRL. Should we erase it from popular culture because it's uncomfortable to watch?

[(Anonymous)]

It's really uncomfortable that they have poor people on cartoons or tv at all. All poor people should be out shoveling coal or in the workhouse instead of seeing people like themselves on the television. As someone who wasn't inspirational growing up poor I apologize for the rest of us. And let me apologize for all the kids with bad, overworked, or checked out parents while I am at it. Jebus knows my mom sucks at parenting just like Nelson's mom. <--- Satire for all the dummies in the back.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't find Nelson's plight funny (though he as a character has done some amusing things) and he's had episodes that portray him in a sympathetic light. I always kinda figured he was a commentary on how difficult it is to get out of poverty. Like that episode where he gets a microloan, but doesn't know how to manage his business, so the bikes he customizes fall apart and he has to deal with angry customers. It doesn't help that his mom sucks and doesn't know how to parent or manage their finances.

[(Anonymous)]

If you analyze any comedy show long enough, you'll begin to see a lot of things that really aren't funny.

But humor is subjective, and to be fair, I think at least some shows acknowledge how fucked up certain situations are. Can't speak of the Simpsons though, since I quit watching around the sixth or seventh season.

[meadowphoenix]

its satire, OP. satire isn't really supposed to be funny as such, it's supposed to be the type of uncomfortable where you find yourself laughing or you laugh because yes, life is completely nonsensical and ridiculous. nelson's depiction is supposed to be a juxtaposition between power structures, the one where nelson is on top and will do whatever he has to stay there including harm others, and the one where he's constantly on the bottom and will never gain any true power.

i would also resist the desire to find a true moral pov with the simpsons. it's not that it never has one, its just that they will 100% throw one away just for the absurdity.