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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-11-08 04:59 pm

[ SECRET POST #673 ]


⌈ Secret Post #673 ⌋

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[identity profile] ronsard.livejournal.com 2008-11-09 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
Well, let's make it clear that Biden, and whoever else in his position for that matter, probably felt he had to say that or risk losing his party the election. He may actually believe in what he said, for all we know, but this point stands regarding the state of politics in our country.

As for what we've been talking about, well, I'm starting to think that, for a lot of people, this entire debate comes down to, "I'm not against homosexuality. I believe people have the right to be whoever they were born to be. However, I do not support same-sex marriage, because in the eye of the church, marriage is defined as strictly between a man and a woman."

I can see how that could be. And I can see how someone who is in this position would have a lot to lose on both sides. However, I also believe in the separation of church and state, and for me, this means that government-sanctioned and church-sanctioned marriage should not receive the same treatment. The church already has the right to turn away any form of marriages believed not to be acceptable in the eye of God, but the government should grant equal rights to all because that is the law.

Those of us fighting Proposition 8 understand that we cannot win the approval of the church for same-sex marriage, at least not in this fight. But we recognize that legal benefits enjoyed by same-sex couples have been been taken away with the passing of Prop 8, and that, to me, is unconstitutional. Since I believe that allowing government-sanctioned marriage for same-sex couples in no way forces the church to change its view on the institution of marriage, I cannot support the decision of those who use religious grounds as reasons to deny others their government-granted civil rights.

But in the end, thank you for taking the time to answer my question. I hope that you will find some way to reconcile your beliefs with your friends on both sides of the battle, though I'm really afraid that's not possible unless you do make some effort to change your point of view.
Edited 2008-11-09 00:22 (UTC)