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fandomsecrets2008-11-08 04:59 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2008-11-08 04:59 pm
[ SECRET POST #673 ]
⌈ Secret Post #673 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Re: 123
For one thing, you're bright enough to realize that marriage shouldn't be anything decided by the government or the church in the first place. Grand. However, at the moment, it is. So any of the benefits married couples get are regulated by the church, who is deciding to deny civil unions those benefits. And now the government and church are deciding they can tell people what they are and aren't allowed to do, because right now, marriage is directly sanctioned by the government and the churches.
Think about your stance here. Government and the church shouldn't be in charge of marriage? Then that should be what's being fixed. Why abolish all marriage and only go to civil unions? The thing to do would be to disassociate marriage from the government and church, which is where it should be in the first place. However, until that is feasible -- which is probably not anytime soon -- shifting the law so that everyone has the same equal rights helps to shift things in that direction, and doesn't leave a ton of people feeling unhappy and spit on.
Also, no one's pointed this out yet, but I'd like to add... "make-pretend crap"? Fine. Maybe so. Maybe marriage isn't intrinsically any better than a civil union would be if they had all the same rights. But in our society it is a different thing. A major thing! Like giving birth to a child that is half your, and half your partner's genes! Or going to homecoming or prom! It's entirely fine for you to really not care about things like that, and even think it's stupid that society makes such a big deal out of it. But so many people, probably especially girls, grow up with this being the norm, something to dream about, and want these things.
If you don't care about getting married? Fine! I don't mind, and society shouldn't push it on you. If you think homecoming and prom are pointless, ridiculous, overrated spectacles, I can pretty much agree with you there (I basically only went with groups of friends because it wound up being a fun place to hang out for the night). If you don't want to have children, or want to adopt, or see no reason why people would make such a big deal over having a biological child, that's fine; I don't want to give birth myself, I'd love to adopt, though I can definitely, definitely see the appeal of bringing a life into the world and having them, in a very real way, be a part of you and your loved one.
But the minute you say that because you don't care about it, no one else should care about it, so it's okay if they're never allowed to do it... that's BS. Even if it's "make-pretend crap," a lot of people really do dream of getting married. A real marriage, dress and suit, wedding party, ceremony, cake, the works, all being recognized. Even besides all the legal benefits, they want that. And if they want to be able to have that, and they are suddenly told that because they're "unnatural" they're not allowed to, they have a right to be upset, especially because of the reason for being denied that. And if it's important to them, it's an important issue that should be fought for, because we're all equal human beings and should not be made to feel lesser than anyone else.
NEXT TIME, ON A VERY SPECIAL EPISODE OF HOLY CRAP I TL;DR THE FUCK OUTTA EVERYBODY, I LEARN THE SKILL OF KNOWING HOW TO SHUT THE HELL UP, JESUS CHRIST ON A CRACKER. ;;;;