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⌈ Secret Post #4769 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

But it still has the same heart. It is just that Picard is reacting and responding to a different world just as the world today has changed from the world as it was when the original series and then TNG were made. The same Star Trek roots are still there, the same morals and the same heart.

I think people will recognize Picard as the same character, just older and changed.

[(Anonymous)]

Just speaking for myself but having a canon add on where things got dark really ruins the hopeful spirit of the original series for me.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT but surely - if that's your logic, that horse is already out of the barn?

[(Anonymous)]

Yep pretty much.

[(Anonymous)]

SA And it's not logic, it's just how I feel.

[(Anonymous)]

Right, sure, bad word choice on my part. I just meant that other things (most obviously DS9) had the darker relationship to the original series already

[(Anonymous)]

DA - DS9 started out out a lot less dark, though. The show picked up at the end of the occupation, after Wolf 359, and with the discovery of the Bajorans' benevolent 'gods'. It always touched on heavy themes but was steeped in hope and promised healing and rebuilding, and we got to see quite a bit of that and various single-episode stories before the show turned to the big stakes. Picard, on the other hand, starts out with old but unhealed trauma and goes straight to the huge, universe-changing mystery and stakes. An iconic character still maintaining his ideals isn't enough to keep a show from feeling dark and heavy.

I miss episodic Trek and being able to spend time with the characters in situations where the fate of the Federation or the world as we/they know it depend on them. Maybe not even anyone's life for once. I can't feel optimistic about the future that is being shown if everything is a blanket of constant danger, conspiracies, and trauma to overcome. Let the characters just breathe and be. Build them up with contained stories that show them living their lives. As heavyhanded as older Trek's moral of the week often was, at least it left the characters in a good place and me with a sense of closure. This looks like it will be another show where you are never at a point fo rest but in a state of fannish hypervigilance for the entire season.

[(Anonymous)]

If you don't like arcs, then what modern tv do you watch? Most modern tv does arcs. And Trek has done arcs since DS9. That doesn't mean that is all Picard will be (I expect we'll get plenty of episodic stuff too), but arcs have been part of the Trek formula for a long time, and they aren't going to go back to episodic-only. That just isn't modern tv.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT

Arcs can vary a lot in how much of the show they take up. It's quite a different thing if the serialized arc elements of a show take up 10% of the show, versus 90% of a show. And I definitely prefer the lower end of serialization, like AYRT - I want time for the characters and their situation to breathe - and as it's becoming more and more common for TV shows to be heavily if not exclusively serialized, I've just started finding fewer and fewer TV shows I like watching.

[(Anonymous)]

Anon from one two comments up - Yes, this. I don't mind overreaching story arcs, but I find it exhausting when a show is nothing but. It's too intense to make for comfort watching. For that, I tend to turn on old favourites were I can pick a random episode or two of self-contained stories and then put the show away and leave with a sense of closure. No need to remember what exactly happened in the episodes before or wonder what will happen after. So many current shows are simply not suited for casual watching. With seasons that are one big tightly-woven story, watching one episode alone feels like watching only a section of a movie. You can do it, sure, but it's unsatisfying, always only a part of the whole. And highly serialized shows are almost always so intense. They are not suited for relaxing, casual watching. They are made to be events, create buzz and keep the watchers impatiently waiting for more.

[(Anonymous)]

From what I understand, it maintains that Trek hopeful spirit. It does go darker, but it isn't a dystopia. The Federation and Picard fell on bad times, things are a bit more difficult now, but the hope is still there, the Federation is still what it is, Picard is still the man he is. Things are just more difficult.

[(Anonymous)]

ToS had almost as many dystopian plots as utopian, like the one where the Organians decided that both the Federation and Empire were wankers who needed to be sent to separate corners to suck their own thumbs until they were willing to play nice with neutrals.

[kribban]

Yes, I was very pleasantly surprised! I adore Picard's live-in Romulans and hope they don't die.