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I don't even know what the genres of most of my music are, let alone the sub-genres.

With 70% of my music I'm like, "Uh...semi-indie, pop, rock, folk...alternative?"

If mid-90s rock/alternative is a genre, then well, I'm always down for that. *shrugs*

And, um...depressive-but-not-emo folk?

I know, right?

Yep, pretty much the same. I can never explain what I like but when I hear something that appeals to me, I can usually say that it reminds me of something else I really love, even though some would say it's not even the same genre.

Ooh, can you share an example of depressive-but-not-emo folk?

So, I'm not AYRT, and the boundaries of "depressive" and "not emo" and "folk" are all sort of subjective, and I haven't listened to this specific genre in 2 or 3 years, but I can give you some stuff that's in the same general area

Marissa Nadler - Drive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H3uH8ipVEmA

Bill Callahan - The Sing
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bkoc0gf2Py0

Laura Marling - Where Can I Go?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G3KiOyD-bCw

the boundaries of "depressive" and "not emo" and "folk" are all sort of subjective

OP, and yeah, this definitely bears saying. In my opinion, the stuff I like isn't emo, because I find it too direct and "mature" to be emo. The artists...don't think their pain is special? But they do want to describe it truly? HOWEVER, I'm sure there are other people who will find these same songs and artists emo. it's definitely YMMV.

Chris Pureka is stunning (esp. hir How I Learned To See In The Dark album):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrUoua3F0v8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mm3tXk2h7k4

I never was a very good fighter,
They started me young
You always were the very best lover
That I couldn't love

Sarah Harmer is a fave (esp. her You Were Here album):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0I2wed_1hA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ctscvfE6SdU

You live out where the street ends
In a basement apartment with one of your friends
And the tap drips all night
Water torture in the sink
The furnace is burning
But it's still cold I think

David Berkeley

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=03cNx-tm6s0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7grujoiTD0g

Corsica, I'm calling from over here
Oh sorceress, come conjure up some kind of cure
Please hold me like you used to, baby
Hold me like you would
Please hold me like you know what I'm going through

Matthew Ryan (he's more folk/alternative/country/rock)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gbPxYK3Lfpo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6H57jyoVrxk

Look at that slow southern sun
Hover and burn over everyone
Cool air that blows just rattles the vent
I've only always said what I thought I meant

Also, if you're into this "genre" but you haven't listened to Damien Rice, he's amazing. Not sure where you could start, though. His album, "O" is the best. Maybe try...idk, um, Aimee? (or Delicate, but you'll have heard it somewhere by now.)

Josh Ritter's also pretty good. This is a TERRIBLE song to rec for an introduction because it's so long, but what the hell, if you like some of my other recs, try Thin Blue Flame:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dwVfMJnLWUE

At night, I make plans for a city laid down
Like the hips of a girl on the spring-covered ground
Spirals and capitals and the twists of a script
Streets named for heroes that could almost exist
[...]
The future glass buildings and the past an address
The weddings in pollen and the wine bottomless
And all wrongs forgotten and all vengeance made right
The suffering verbs put to sleep in the night

The future descending like a bright chandelier
The world just beginning and the guests in good cheer
In Royal City, I fell into a trance
Cause it’s hell to believe there ain’t a hell of a chance

Same. I don't listen to genres so much as I listen to songs I like, which are sort of all over the place.

Like, just scrolling down through my playlist, I've got Taylor Swift, Madonna, Linkin Park, Disturbed, Ed Sheeran, Yuna, Niall Horan, Katy Perry, Evanescence, Lindsey Sterling, Three Days Grace, Stevie Nicks, Florence and the Machine, Halsey, Paramore... IDK.

"pop"

you like pop music (and that's fine pop music rules)

OP - I mean, there's definitely a large amount of pop in these examples. Which is cool, I like some pop too. But a lot of these are only pop in so far as they are/were popular. Linkin Park, Disturbed, and Three Days Grace are mainly in the metal/electronic/alternative vein. Evanescence was...trying to be that too? Not sure they succeeded, but ymmv. Stevie Nicks was more classic rock than anything. Florence & the Machine is indie baroque rock/pop if ever I've heard it. And Paramore is alternative punk pop.

If I had to pick two genres for AYRT's music I'd pick pop and metal/alternative, which both have strong presences in the list they gave us. But there's more than a couple of definite outliers in this list as well.

Pop is a broad church. I've never listened to Disturbed but Linkin Park and Three Days Grace fit comfortably within the pop ambit to me, in terms of the songwriting choices. And Evanescence and Paramore are just 100% pop. I think that the definition of pop music has to allow, like, a broad range of different instrumental and emotional affects and genre affectations. And I think that's the best way to understand most of the artists on anon's list, if not all.

I want to be clear that I don't mean that in any minimizing or negative sense. Pop music is brilliant.

I mean, you do you, but I think you're wrong. In fact, I'd say you're just factually wrong. Google "Three Days Grace genre" and "Linkin Park genre" - they're not pop, like, at all. They're popular, but that doesn't make them pop. Pop is a sound and a sensibility. If you disagree with that, if you think pop is some kind of catch-all for music or all sounds and sensibilities that's accessible enough to get broadly popular, then it's no longer a genre at all.

IMO Evanescence is like...49% pop, max. Paramore might be like 65% pop. Again, google the names of these bands plus genre and you'll see that they are not considered "just 100% pop." That's an incredibly simplistic view of genre.

Good for you for not hating on pop. It doesn't change the fact that only like 1/3 of the artists AYRT listed are predominantly pop.

I'm familiar with Three Days Grace and they are most definitely not pop. If anything, I would call them rock/alternative. I would say Linkin Park is the same.

They're both alt-metal, if you want to get persnickety.

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