[ SECRET POST #4774 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4774 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[World of Warcraft]



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[Yuri on Ice and Sailor Moon]


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03.
[The Untamed, Jiang Cheng]


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08. [WARNING for incest]

[Annie]











Notes:

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #683.
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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

People legit think that if they're not kissing (sight-line unimpeded) on-screen and blatantly saying "YES. THIS IS MY BOYFRIEND TO WHOM I AM ROMANTICALLY AND SEXUALLY ATTRACTED. JUST SO WE'RE CLEAR, I REITERATE--" that it's not canon. Never mind that it's rare even for het anime couples to not have a kiss shown off-screen or talk about each other that way...

I hate how much unrealistically higher the bar is for gay canon couples in fandom, because lbr it's just another excuse to tear down queer expression *shrug emoji*

[(Anonymous)]

da.

or how canon gay couples get torn to shreds for every tiny thing they do, bc if they aren't ~P-E-R-F-E-C-T~ then they're Bad Rep!!!!

[(Anonymous)]

Not to be That Person, but during the show's run and immediate aftermath, it was ABSOLUTELY ambiguous, both about what was put on screen and in how TPTB talked about it. I don't know if they've changed their tune since, but the most touching anime moment of 2016? According to the head writer, it was "up to interpretation" whether they kissed or hugged.

If we're doing comparisons to Sailor Moon: Kunzite and Zoizite never had to make out in order to make it blatantly, indisputably clear that they were a couple. Yuri and Viktor, though, make bedroom eyes at each other and exchange GOOD LUCK CHARMS FOR SURE NO HOMO in front of a church, and every time it seems like it is going to adress the elephant in the room, it veers off into some variety of "I love him but not like in a gay way". Sure, the show was not subtle about its target audience and it left no doubt about what it wanted us to ship, but the way that relationship is depicted is just... very, very weird, from a storyteling perspective. (but makes rather more sense in the context of the rest of the fanservice that made up like 30% of the show)

[(Anonymous)]

+1

I seriously don't get why people can't understand this.

[(Anonymous)]

Yup, THIS.

[(Anonymous)]

i think i'd be less annoyed if it hadn't been hailed as 'THE BEST GAY-REP IN ANIME' when... other shows, even years ago, have done better and more explicitly.

YOI is fine for me as addition to LGBT stories in anime, not as the pinnacle of it. and that's what i wish people understood.

[(Anonymous)]

Thisssss

+1

[(Anonymous)]

Absolutely this.

[(Anonymous)]

I've only watched this anime once, so I could be wrong, but didn't Viktor became Yuri's trainer because the latter was flirting with him when drunk some years ago ? I ship/'ve shipped a lot of "could be canon/could be fanon ships" and have always leaned towards the sceptical side of shipping. But, with this couple, I've never questionned if they were or not canon. They seemed very obviously infatued with each other. And they're not even one of my ships (I like them, don't get me wrong, they're sweet. I'm just not interested in them outside of the show and maybe, of some amvs. But that's just because I love amvs).

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Yuri made a drunken bet with Victor (that we only get context for in literal still snapshots after the series in the final credits) that if Yuri won a dance contest he would choreograph a routine for him. It isn't even clear that the Japanese Yuri actually wins, because the Russian Yuri (who was only fourteen during J!Yuri's naked gyrating, just FYI) acts as if he won and Victor owes him the routine throughout the show. Yuri doesn't question why Victor is even there, and wanting to be his coach. He doesn't even find out about the bet until the end of the show.

OP

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, and that's exactly why I think of Haruka/Michiru when people talk about why Victor/Yuuri isn't canon. Haruka and Michiru never kissed or said "We're girlfriends, who are dating, and in love." But I've never ever met anyone who didn't think they were one of the most quintessential canon queer relationships in anime, emphasis very much on the "canon."

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

They did say they loved each other, and implied it in a sexual way. Or at least in a way that connoted romantic intention. We got perspective from both sides where it was reciprocated. Their relationship was not built upon fanservice, it was meant as the genuine article. Unlike the poorly written drivel between Yuri and Victor.

Re: OP

[(Anonymous)]

^^^^^ this