[ SECRET POST #4779 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4779 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I'm pretty sure they were all the people in town that Yen gave magical blue pills to. So yes, they all wanted to have sex, most likely with the people they were having sex with, presumably not in a big writhing ball in front of Yen.

So, it's kind of a stretch to compare it to GoT's hallmark violent sex crimes, but it definitely hits at least "sex pollen" levels of nonconsensual.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT

I just rewatched that episode. The conversation with Tissaia implies Yen's setting up for something, instead of, say, trying to lure people into a trap. And the people in the orgy have masks. Looks like a consensual sex party with (magical) aphrodisiacs to me.

That said, she's kind of full-on with Jaskier, and enspelling Geralt to assault people is pretty damn heinous. Just not, er, rape.

[(Anonymous)]

Oh, don't get me started on Geralt. It's all icky at best.

Geralt and Yennefer flirt heavily, then he realizes she is bad news and wants to leave. She mind-whammies him, tells him he has no chance to overpower her, she kisses and bites him hard enough to draw blood, and Geralt blacks out.
And okay, this sounds like literally the textbook case we try to teach teenagers (It's okay to change your mind!). But she's hot and they're the canon OTP, so it's okay, and the show had both longing music and romantic flickering candlelight AND eerie wind noises to acknowledge that it wasn't the happy end yet. And he was clearly into her earlier. And it's almost certain Yennefer didn't actually rape him after he blacked out because the show would have shown us if she did, probably with tasteful shots with more flickering candlelight, billowing bed curtains and romantic music. So no sexual assault there.

When he wakes up, Geralt learns he attacked and humiliated Yennefer's political enemies and we laugh because it's funny that a grown man is spanked in public. I'm sure Geralt didn't mind setting his policy of non-interference in politics and his generally pacifist approach aside for this, and anyway, forcing someone to do something they're fundamentally opposed to isn't a sexual assault.

My problem isn't the fact that Yennefer assaults people. That's conflict, and conflict is what we want in a story, and it's especially cool if it comes from a female main character who we feel at least some sympathy for. That's a complexity we rarely see. Great! But I have to criticize that the show does it badly by playing her shitty behavior as a joke. The mayor has been roofied and it's funny because he's naked even though he's not hot, haha, and the dozens of attractive people forced into an orgy just so Yennefer has something to look at are adorably befuddled when Yennefer breaks the spell with a humorously unsexy word, just like I would be if I suddenly found myself surrounded by my naked co-workers. It's the fun kind of team-building exercise!
If the goal was to make Yennefer bad, so that we can have a redemption arc later, the show failed miserably, because her behavior doesn't read as "evil" to the viewer. It was all just cheeky fun! And it's not because we're un-woke viewers who don't get it, it's because the show tells us it's funny, oh valley of penis, haha. That's what makes the show bad: the things it says don't match the tone in which it's saying it, and that confuses the message. That is bad storytelling, and the show does it a lot.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't think they were "forced into an orgy". I think they volunteered. I stated my textual reasons for thinking that earlier.

Yennefer is exceptionally unpleasant elsewhere, yes.