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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-02-10 06:06 pm

[ SECRET POST #4784 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-02-11 12:58 am (UTC)(link)
I think part of the casting (in the stage show) is down to physical-stuff. Trunch needs to tower over everyone and there aren't that many older women (Trunch is like in her 70s) who fit the bill...particularly as they have to swing a child around.

But all that can be a trick in the film, there's no need to actually swing a child round (8x a week...) and camera tricks can make Trunch look big and towering.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-02-11 01:14 am (UTC)(link)
Yup. And I think stage is just a different thing altogether, but when you cast a man as a woman on screen it is very obvious that is what you've done.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-11 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
I wonder if it's a British thing which doesn't translate outside of our odd-history of drag?

Like, Alistair Sims was the headmistress in the original St Trinian's films (although now I've said that I don't think those films translate at all outside of the UK)
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-02-11 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
To me it translates as transphobic and sexist. We're not talking about actual drag, we're talking about an actually male actor dressing as an actually female character.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-11 04:23 am (UTC)(link)
If Trunchball was trans, then it would be transphobic for a man to play a woman. Trunchball is not trans, she is a woman. It would be sexist to say a man couldn't play a woman.

Wait until you hear about Everybody's Talking about Jamie.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-11 05:11 am (UTC)(link)
Drag is transphobic and sexist by default.

A man playing a woman or a woman playing a man is not automatically drag (Shakespeare, anyone?)

That said, I have issues with Tootsie & Mrs Doubtfire being musicals.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-11 10:03 am (UTC)(link)
Shakespeare is hardly a good example given that women were not /allowed/to be actors at all.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-11 01:24 am (UTC)(link)
Fun fact, in the film Pam Ferris really did swing 'Amanda' around. They made this rig for the camera but Pam Ferris almost lost her thumb when she cut herself really badly on the straps.