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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-02-17 07:18 pm

[ SECRET POST #4791 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4791 ⌋

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[Sebastian Stan, RPF]


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[linked for cartoon bestiality]


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(Anonymous) 2020-02-18 12:18 pm (UTC)(link)
Roddenberry did the best he could with a TV budget and technology in 1966, and by 1979 he had a larger budget and could better realize his vision. And since dozens of other things were better realized with advances in stagecraft, it's best to just roll with it.
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-02-18 01:05 pm (UTC)(link)
What I saw in the new ST and in ST:D was *not* better. Just....horribly weird and too, too different to make the *slightest* bit of sense.

Some things are best left alone.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-18 04:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Are you talking about not liking the bumpy-forehead Klingons in general as opposed to the just-a-dude-in-pancake-makeup TOS look, or do you mean disliking the way they look in the reboot movies and Discovery specifically as opposed to the bumpy foreheads from the earlier movies and TNG/DS9? Anon was talking about how the bumpy foreheads came along with the first movie in 1979 because they could afford to make their aliens more alien by that point. Since TNG-style bumpy-forehead Klingons were around the longest and they appear to be the most popular, I don't count it as a loss that they redesigned the Klingons for The Motion Picture. In fact, for all the years we didn't have an explanation for the change, I was perfectly happy to just handwave and ignore the fact that Klingons ever looked different than they did on TNG.

If you don't like the way they look in the reboot movies and Discovery, that's totally fair. While I'm not partial to those looks, either (especially the reboot movies) I do appreciate how Discovery tried to introduce more variation to illustrate how Klingons had been living on multiple planets for a long time and there had been a bit of racial divergence.

It's not just Klingons who got an update. TNG brought us Romulans with (significantly less dramatic) bumpy foreheads, too. We finally got an explanation for that in ST: Picard recently. The Romulans with bumpy foreheads are... from the north. :)
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-02-18 05:43 pm (UTC)(link)
I liked the Klingons in the original series. I thought they looked neat; just different enough to *be* different, not so different as to be really super-alien. And they really read as kind of human in most of their interactions, etc., in TOS.

I thought that changing their look so radically for the movie in '79 was kinda dumb - this was *post* TOS, but not post THAT much. I don't remember ever hearing an in-universe reason for it, either, or at least not one that made a lot of sense. I just thought they looked dumb, and they had the option of making lots of other alien races look all kinds of ways, so why mess with an established one?

I really disliked the Discovery ones, and don't remember ever hearing an in-universe explanation for that, either.

Guess I'm just...resistant to change.