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fandomsecrets2020-02-21 06:46 pm
case) wrote in fandomsecrets2020-02-21 06:46 pm
[ SECRET POST #4795 ]
⌈ Secret Post #4795 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
Spoilers and CWs ahead!
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02. [SPOILERS for The Good Place]
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03. [SPOILERS for Sanditon]
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04. [SPOILERS for Guilded Age]
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05. [SPOILERS for Star Trek: Picard]
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06. [WARNING for discussion of rape]
[Graceling]
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07. [WARNING for discussion of substance abuse]
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08. [WARNING for discussion of sexual assault]
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09. [WARNING for discussion of abuse/assault]
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10. [WARNING for discussion of incest/underage/etc. Not the main topic but figured it might start discussion]
Notes:
Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #686.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 0 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 0 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
Current Secret Submissions Post: here.
Suggestions, comments, and concerns should go here.
Re: OP, TW for suicide (and rampant stupidity)
Anyway, I too didn't like the "it's like committing suicide" angle because not wanting to exist on Earth because of the sheer weight of what life is making me feel, and choosing a peaceful end after perhaps MILLIONS of years in the Good Place getting to achieve what I want are not the same thing for me. One is a dark place to be, the other sounds fulfilling and peaceful.
Re: OP, TW for suicide (and rampant stupidity)
(Anonymous) 2020-02-22 01:21 am (UTC)(link)I also think an important point that was missed by those viewers was that you don't have to leave the Good Place at all, and it avoided the common narrative blunder of "we're going to tell you that both choices are equally valid but show you that one of them is wrong/inferior." Because Tahani changed her mind about leaving even after doing everything she wanted to do and found a new reason to stay.
Re: OP, TW for suicide (and rampant stupidity)
Yes I think Tahani is being left out of the discussion a bit. Although for me that comes with a different level of existential angst - as in, does this mean she becomes the same as the angels/demons and has had to give up her humanity on some level? It's quite heavy for a comedy show I guess but it did make me wonder. But she seems happy to do what she's doing!
As I said in my original comment I get why a lot of people don't like it and feel like it goes against the hope offered by the show. But as someone who has struggled with the concept of "forever" and angsted about it (and believe me, teenage Goth me loved vampires for exactly that reason) - the ending totally appealed. I started thinking about the fact that being human involves knowing that there's an end someday and all the baggage that carries. I got why the people in the original Good Place would settle into an unfeeling zombie like existence where they don't feel the pleasure in paradise anymore.
I know not everyone is going to see it that way but it worked for me.
I also feel like there's a minor message, through Tahani, that i's ok for people to go to the Good Place and not want to walk through the door ever.