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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-02-26 05:25 pm

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(Anonymous) 2020-02-26 10:38 pm (UTC)(link)
I imagine it's because you're older and you have a harder time relating to the characters. It makes sense that a YA fantasy wont interest someone who isn't a YA anymore. Fantasy itself can be very repetitive as well in most cases, so I'd think it'd be an easy genre to get bored of.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-27 04:12 am (UTC)(link)
If it helps, the New Adult genre (or marketing scheme disguised as a genre, I'm still not sure which) was designed as essentially "YA but the main characters aren't kids".

I haven't actually seen it anywhere but Wattpad, which puts a few points on the "marketing scheme" side of the scale, but the demand is known to exist, so it might be a real genre in time.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-27 04:55 am (UTC)(link)
DA

New Adult didn't take off with librarians and book stores like publishers hoped it would. So, for now, publishers have abandoned NA as a thing. So, yeah, you're more likely to find it on Wattpad or if you go looking for indie titles.

NA has made a mess of YA shelves and what some publishers are even considering YA anymore. And to make matters worse, the series they used to try and make NA a thing, they're now turning around and marketing as Adult as it should have been in the first place. It was an adult series, the publisher deliberately marketed it towards upper YA to make NA a 'thing.' But it's like fetch. Not a thing.
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[personal profile] catdetective 2020-02-27 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah-- now that I'm an adult, in a lot of YA I just wonder where all the grown-ups are when kids are fighting for their lives. There are standouts in the genre, and I have a lot of respect for it, but I'm not the main audience anymore.

The real problem is that a lot of books get marketed as YA that shouldn't be-- because publishers push female authors into that niche, or push adult fantasy into YA. With publishers ditching NA, as I see has been talked about, they make it harder for everyone to find what they want.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-26 10:46 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the same except I know why. For me it's a combination of overexposure, too many caricatures instead of characters, and the plots getting thinner all the time.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-27 12:04 am (UTC)(link)
same
YA is kinda distinctive in ways other than the char's ages.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-26 10:47 pm (UTC)(link)
I still read YA fantasy, but I'm noticing that more often than not, I just can't believe that a 16 year old has all of that life experience that these characters usually have (trained for years for purpose xyz, already a legend in their trade). Like, if there is one character like that it's fine (or if it's a universe where it fits), but it's usually the whole group of them and it's just meh. Like the author actually wanted to write for people in their late 20s instead.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-26 10:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I feel the same way. I think for me it's that YA tends to focus more on the reader inserting themselves into the story than a story about fully-realized people who AREN'T you or meant to be like you. At least, that's what it feels like to me.

(Anonymous) 2020-02-26 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
I can enjoy stuff from when I was young, but I think it's a mental thing where I don't understand the youth of today and just want to know where tf their parents are while all this is happening or why other adults are encouraging them to go on a quest instead of telling them to go home and let the grown ups deal with it.
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[personal profile] bur 2020-02-27 04:13 am (UTC)(link)
Hmmm... I'm looking at my bookshelf, and while I have a lot of YA and middle-grade, they generally have one thing in common: adult characters. As in, while the main viewpoint is generally 11-18, the actual important cast at large has a broader scope. The YA I can't get into are the ones were 95% of everyone over 20 is evil or has a case of the dumb, if they even exist at all.