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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-03-10 05:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #4813 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4813 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Some fandoms have it coming for aggressively pushing their wank onto other people's timelines.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:24 pm (UTC)(link)
Like, how Voltron antis metastasized into creating hit lists of people with identified AO3 accounts, or how you couldn't talk about queerbaiting without Destiel or Johnlock stans making it all about them.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Lol, this. And honestly, I'm pretty sure fandom has always had petty shit going on, it just wasn't always where everyone could see.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:27 pm (UTC)(link)
"well, they started it!"

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:33 pm (UTC)(link)
Fandoms, or really any group with a fanatical interest in something, have always had mean-spirited minority groups within.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-03-10 10:35 pm (UTC)(link)
People not in the fandom I just feel have nothing better to do. It's people *in* the fandom that bothers me more...like, we might not have all the same faves but ultimately we like the same property?

And yes I know some characters/parings/plots/things have annoying fans but I'm kind of resentful when I get lumped into that when I never went out of my way to antagonise anyone and just want to have fun with the things I enjoy.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:37 pm (UTC)(link)
I never felt it either....until the Voltron finale and Sheith fans got nothing. I can't lie. I'm aware it makes me a petty butthead, but I had a good lol about them not getting their "super obvious and you're homophobic if you don't support it" canon.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Ok Klancer.

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't know about specific fandoms, but it can be entertaining if something is happening in a fandom that has nothing to do with you. Kind of like liking gossip as long as it's not anyone who directly impacts you or that you're close to. The lack of any sort of threat makes it easier to laugh at or dissect.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-11 12:30 am (UTC)(link)
This, definitely.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 10:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Personally speaking, for me, it's not so much schadenfreude-after all, if I'm not in the fandom, I obviously have no personal attachment to the wank involved, so it'd be weird for me to get some kind of glee out of something that has no effect on me or my fandom experience.

No, in my case, it's mainly pure curiosity. Especially if the wank and drama is particularly bizarre or over the top. Even then, though, I do feel for the people in the fandoms who are just trying to have their fun but have to wade through and deal with all that obnoxiousness along the way.

I think the only time I'd ever actually feel any schadenfreude is if people who act like total assholes and creeps towards others-harassing the cast/crew/fans of something, being obnoxious about ship wars, threatening somebody over fic or ships, things of that sort-get their comeuppance. In that case, they deserve to get the proverbial smack upside the head telling them to grow the hell up and get over themselves. But that's not a feeling that's exclusive to fandom, of course-I want anyone who acts like an asshole to be held accountable for being an asshole.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 11:01 pm (UTC)(link)
It "used to" happen just as much, only tumblr and twitter didn't hurl multi-fandom vomit over every other fandoms, so you didn't see it.

Okay

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 11:28 pm (UTC)(link)
If you don't remember people "drinking up the delicious tears" of whatever disappointed fans or shippers of Star Wars/Harry Potter/Supernatural, well, okay, but that happened and this isn't recent. I'm talking Star Wars Prequels (The Phantom Menace came out in 1999), Harry Potter books (The Philosopher's Stone was published in 1997), and a show that is fifteen years old (Supernatural started in 2005).

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 11:32 pm (UTC)(link)
Ia

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 11:39 pm (UTC)(link)
+1

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 11:45 pm (UTC)(link)
yup, it's not new at all.

OP

(Anonymous) 2020-03-11 12:01 am (UTC)(link)
I remember it, and I never said it didn't used to happen at all. But it used to only happen with the really big fandoms and actually terrible fans. These days it happens with every fandom.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-10 11:48 pm (UTC)(link)
This reminds me of being in wank-coms on Livejournal back in the day like Hetalia wank - which to be fair really did organize what bullshit was happening in the main communities. Honestly I'm mostly thinking about Hetalia wank because that was probably the most active wank com I had ever witnessed.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-11 01:41 am (UTC)(link)
At one point there was so much shipping-specific schadenfreude surrounding Harry Potter fandom that the fandom wank people made a sub-com for it.

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-11 02:20 am (UTC)(link)
I saw loads of Hetalia wank from outside the fandom.

My wankiest fandom back a-day was Kingdom Hearts and fuuuuck me that was wanky. I still have war flashbacks to whiny Akuroku fans.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-03-11 03:25 am (UTC)(link)
I've never had this feeling for a fandom I'm not into at all. But for a fandom I'm partly into but horrible fans ruin it? Occasionally. Like with Star Wars. I was a bit happy at seeing butthurt TLJ-haters get disappointed by TRS. They were just so awful to real life people. That's where I draw the line and might start feeling some happiness at seeing those fans get burned: when they start attacking creators and actors and acting like they are owed what they personally want.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-11 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
i imagine it has something to do with the way social media is formatted so that everything you do and say is out in the open for the world to see. it was better when things were kept a bit more private and organized. before sites like twitter, you used to have a lot more control over how much fandom material and drama you were exposed to.
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[personal profile] cakemage 2020-03-11 04:20 am (UTC)(link)
You were never a denizen of Fandom Wank back in the day, were you, OP? Because let me tell you, fandom has always had its loud, petty, mean-spirited and spiteful factions. The Avenue Q song "Schadenfreude" is the national anthem of fandom, and has been for a long time. Twitter and tumblr have just made it so that the wank flows at a higher speed than ever before, but that being the case I can definitely see why you'd feel that way.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-11 08:21 am (UTC)(link)
I don't think I've heard of a more untrue statement... Like what? Did you just start using the internet five years ago?
No offence but being mean-spirited was a huge part of fandom ever since fandoms existed. I do think the way people are being dicks has changes in the last however many year, but that's more in the way that where once people unloaded their feelings on the internet because nobody gave a damn, it's now that people care too much about how every little word can be misconstrued and it leads to melt downs in a completely different way. It used to be that you could bash your own fandom, (along with others) and most of it would be fun and forgotten. People were meaner and harsher, but people were allowed their opinions, and often responded too in kind. Now we're all wrapped up in such a ball of fictionalized anxiety that there's only a few small things we're allowed to lash out against, so people take the chances when they come.

But that's just me, I guess.