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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-03-29 03:05 pm

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(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 07:45 pm (UTC)(link)
IA. It's antithetical to how I feel television should exist as a medium.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 07:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I get this, OP.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
I can see your point in that a lot of things were originally created with a particular model of distribution in mind and Netflix breaks that.

Some of the newer shows and mini-series seem to be created with the binge model in mind or maybe part of how they're being picked up is specifically because they're doing something that would stand out in that environment. Character arcs, character development, and the pacing overall is definitely hitting different in some of the new shows.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 08:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Totally agreed. Bingeing makes shows more disposable.
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[personal profile] sparklywalls 2020-03-29 08:18 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't mind binging, it has it's place and I did use to do it with actual DVD boxsets years ago.

I do sometimes wish there was less pressure to watch something in one go though. And it's a minor annoyance on release day when there's someone on your Twitter list (for example) who has been up since 6am posting as though everyone has already watched it so they're spoiling it by 10am. It's like...some of us have fucking jobs to go to. I know you can mute tags etc but that doesn't always work. I'm not even massively fussed about spoilers compared to some in fandom, I think it's just the fact that they don't realise not everyone has all day to dedicate to a new TV show...well, they didn't prior to Coronavirus!
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(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 09:40 pm (UTC)(link)
Yeah, this. I'm usually not fussy about spoilers but can y'all at least wait until after the weekend so some of us have the CHANCE to catch up?

(Anonymous) 2020-03-30 03:03 am (UTC)(link)
Ugh I hate that too. Great, you watched it all at 3am as soon as it dropped. Could you hold off for a day or two so the rest of us to catch up?

I like binging old shows that have been out for a while but I don't want to rush through new seasons of shows as soon as they all drop. I like to let shows breathe in my head for a while.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 08:49 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree. I can't do binge watching of anything because I get fidgety and end up wanting to do something else after watching more than 2 or 3 episodes while losing focus of the story line.
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[personal profile] dinogrrl 2020-03-29 10:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I not only get fidgety, but I completely lose track of what's going on. I'm someone who needs time to digest a new experience--whether that's an episode, movie, play, whatever--and file it away in my mind appropriately before I can continue on. If I don't get a chance to do that because it's all dumped on me at once, plus pressure from other fans to get through it all as quickly as possible, I lose interest very quickly.

Plus I like having things spaced out to, say, weekly updates because that gives me something to look forward to during the week. Helps me get through my days.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 10:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Binge-watching is my favorite way to watch tv, so I'm glad most streaming tv is released like this.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 10:45 pm (UTC)(link)
I agree as well, especially on the fanworks side of things.

I'm with you.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 11:05 pm (UTC)(link)
Even with something I really like and am excited for, I can't watch much more than a couple of hours of it in a day. And if, somehow, I were able watch 10 to 20 hours of something in a day or two, I very much doubt I'd be able to absorb all of it. I feel like I get much more out of an episode (or two) if I'm able to let it sit with me for a bit before moving on.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
The only thing I do like about this release model is that the showrunners don't suddenly swerve away from their original plan because people guessed what it was.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
Same. I also just have a hard time binge-watching for very long and often either do not have time to devote an entire weekend to a show or just can't consume that much of one thing all at once (while not being able to do any tasks or chores that can't be done in the living room or involve devoting attention to other things/looking away from the screen much). I think dropping everything all at once is fine for very short things, like one-off movies, documentaries, or specials, or short mini-series under 5 hours.

I really liked how Picard was spread out with one new episode a week. I think that's a great model for shows that aren't super-short.

I also think shows that are more procedural in nature (if anyone still makes those) actually benefit from the traditional American broadcast model of 20-something episode seasons spread out over months with a mid-season break. I know there are British procedurals with like 3 episodes* but what is even the point of that and no one needs to be bombarded with 25 episodes of Law and Order all at once. I think semi-procedural shows like Elementary and 9-1-1 also work well with this broadcast model.

*Possible exaggeration.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-29 11:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Fully agreed. I need time between episodes of something to digest what I just watched, especially if it's something like BoJack Horseman that can be really fucking heavy (and REALLY FUCKING SPOILERY if you try to find ANY fandom space to chat about it without finishing the series first). But people who don't need to take breaks get mad at people like me for being "too slow" and "spoilers aren't such a big deal anyway, stop being a baby about it." It makes me not want to watch a show at all, regardless of how good it might be.
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[personal profile] anarchicq 2020-03-29 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
I find I don't retain shows as well when I binge them. Is this common?

(Anonymous) 2020-03-30 12:20 am (UTC)(link)
hard same. I binged The Good Place to get caught up to it before the last season started and while it was an easy binge, I also literally did not remember things that happened early on which ended up having a bearing on later plot twists.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-30 12:21 am (UTC)(link)
See, I love it because the longer I go in between episodes of something, the more likely I am to forget details from previous episodes, which can end up hurting my enjoyment of the show if it references something that happened way back in episode 2 that I barely remember now. I would much rather watch things in big chunks because that makes it that much easier for it to all stay fresh in my mind.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-30 01:49 am (UTC)(link)
I can very much see the pros and cons of both formats.

If going back to weekly episodes would mean going back to heavily episodic TV, and networks that refuse to green-light TV that isn't extremely episodic, then I can't say I'd be in favor of that.

But I do get nostalgic for the era of weekly episodes, seasons that ran mid September to late May, and summer hiatuses.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-30 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
In regular times I'd agree with you (between work and just regular life stuff, I barely have to time to keep up with one episode a week of all the shows I watch) but right now I'm enjoying bingeing. I definitely remember things better when I'm bingeing something than if I'd watch it more spaced out (there have been multiple shows where it'll reference something from a previous season or something and I'm confused, because even though I watched that season, it was X number of years ago and I don't really remember it, whereas if I'd just watched that season last week or the week before, I'm much more likely to know what the hell is going on).
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[personal profile] meadowphoenix 2020-03-30 07:22 am (UTC)(link)
I understand the frustration, and I miss episode tags soooooo much, although I prefer bingeing.

(Anonymous) 2020-03-30 05:41 pm (UTC)(link)
I prefer full season releases because that way networks can't play ridiculous games with the episode release order and completely screw up the plotline and character/relationship development in their shows.

If networks could be trusted to air episodes in the correct order, then I'd prefer weekly episode releases for all the reason you said.