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⌈ Secret Post #4838 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

I agree that would be a good thing.

But I also think that the extent to which this trope is actually a thing gets massively, massively overstated. All 3 of the shows you mention here started in the 90s. According To Jim started in 2001. And these are the examples that always, always, always get brought up. I don't know if this is even really a thing anymore - it's very rare for people to bring up examples from the last, like, decade. It honestly feels like people are so fucking annoyed at Kevin James and King of Queens that they massively overstate the prevalence of this trope (which I understand, Kevin James sucks, but it's still annoying).

[(Anonymous)]

I think you'd have a stronger argument if OP's examples weren't long-running, popular shows, some of which are still culturally very big today.

It just misses the decade mark, but Modern Family has Ed O'Neill married to Sofía Vergara, FFS.

[(Anonymous)]

I think you'd have a stronger argument if OP's examples weren't long-running, popular shows, some of which are still culturally very big today.

King of Queens is not running today, nor is it culturally very big today. And Simpsons and Family Guy are basically legacy shows that are big today primarily if not exclusively on the back of their 90s and 00s material, respectively. I just don't think that you can look at those examples and say that it's a trope with massive contemporary relevance.

It just misses the decade mark, but Modern Family has Ed O'Neill married to Sofía Vergara, FFS.

Come on. First of all, Ed O'Neill is less attractive than Sofia Vergara but he's neither fat nor especially doofy. Second, this is an example where Sofia Vergara's character is more or less a trophy wife in-canon, which makes it a very different kind of relationship and a different trope than what OP is talking about.

[(Anonymous)]

KoQ ran for nine seasons and is still airing in syndication. It gave Kevin James a movie career, albeit a brief one. I mean, come on. Kevin James.

We agree to disagree about contemporary relevance. All of those shows are still recognized and watched by a significant percentage of viewing audiences today.

I'll give you Modern Family, it's a stretch of the "Ugly Guy, Hot Wife" trope which is what OP is referring to.

[(Anonymous)]

When does King of Queens ever even get talked about or remembered except as the most egregious example of this specific trope?

Yes, it was a big enough hit to get Kevin James a movie career, apparently, but that doesn't make it relevant in 2020

[(Anonymous)]

It doesn't have to be the hot trend in watercooler conversations to be be relevant. It's a long running show, still in syndication and apparently popular. If nobody watched it, no channel would still be syndicating it at this date. It resonates with someone - lots of someones, in fact. The fact that it's not your or my cup of tea doesn't change that. I'm sorry it irritates you so much that you feel you have to take issue with OP's dislike of this trope.

[(Anonymous)]

I have a hard time believing that OP would genuinely be satisfied with a show the general level of quality as King of the Hill but with the genders reversed