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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-15 05:08 pm

[ SECRET POST #4849 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4849 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-04-15 11:56 pm (UTC)(link)
For me, it’s not necessarily which characters we get to know better, and more which characters fit certain types/tropes that are near-guaranteed to interest me? Some of those tend more towards heroes, and some tend more towards villains, and a couple of them were fascinating for being a trope geared towards one and doing the opposite.

Example: I love tricksters/conmen/social engineers/manipulative bastards. Which, depending on genre, can go either way, the spy/heist genres tend to favour them as heroes, other genres lean more on villains. For the ‘manipulative bastard’ type, eg Littlefinger, Palpatine, Lionel Luther, the Devil in Brimstone, several other characters played by John Glover … it does tend more towards villain. BUT! The cdrama Nirvana in Fire had an absolutely stunning main character who ticked every last one of those boxes, went on a tour-de-force monte-christo political revenge scheme that would put Edmund Dantes to shame, and was the hero. Start to finish. And was portrayed as struggling massively with the moral repercussions of several of the fairly awful things he had to do. See also: Discworld’s Vetinari, who is basically a fantasy Bond villain in all particulars, and morally ambiguous to the nth degree, but is broadly considered a good character because a) he’s significantly better than his predecessors, both morally, mentally and professionally, b) because he’s genuinely done a lot of good for his city, and c) because Vimes, our hero, passionately hates him but will also defend him to the death (literally).

I’m also very fond of the whole ‘dignified and honourable’ sort of character, who a lot of the time shows up as the romantic runner up (hi, CotBP James Norrington!), but can also get some antagonist mileage from a) being in a heist story, or b) being the honourable member of a corrupt institution. Star Wars Legends was great for these, with the few honourable Imps running around. They’re also generally considered one of the most bland hero types around, but I usually still love the Lawful Paladin who struggles with a world full of very cynical people.

In summary: I have certain character types that I like and find most interesting, and whether they’re heroes or villains tends to depend on the story.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-16 12:42 am (UTC)(link)
+1 these are some VERY good examples