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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-17 06:51 pm

[ SECRET POST #4851 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4851 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Lots because I counted wrong earlier.

Secrets Left to Post: 00 pages, 00 secrets from Secret Submission Post #694.
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(Anonymous) 2020-04-18 01:51 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - Yes please, give me context, because the day after it aired, I read a recap of the finale that was just like, "Danno and Steve went their separate ways" and made absolutely no mention of Cath. (That writer was probably also trying to block it from memory. 😂)

(Anonymous) 2020-04-18 03:26 am (UTC)(link)
OP/ayrt

Since you read a recap, I won't go into all of the details, but Steve decides that he needs to go off somewhere to find himself, and leaves town. This is only a week after Danny had been shot escaping from where he was being held captive by Wo Fat's wife, who kidnapped him to get revenge on Steve (she described Danny as "the person Steve cares about most in the world", which he never denied) and was in seriously critical condition for awhile and almost died. I don't believe the Steve who existed for most of the show would leave Danny before he was healed, but he said goodbye to him out on the beach and then went into his house to say goodbye to the rest of the team, who were inside. The goodbye scene with Danny was okay, but given their history, I just felt like it should've been...more, IDK (and I think it should've been after the scene with everybody else; the way it was it just wasn't really give the sort of focus I felt like it should've had).

Anyway, he has the goodbyes with everyone and it's super sad and I'm yelling at the screen the whole time for him to change his mind and turn around and go back and not leave lol.

Next thing you know, he's sitting on a plane (we don't know where to) and gets a text from Danny that says "I miss you already" and he smiles and the camera angle changes and you can tell that someone is walking up to him, and I'm hoping it's Danny, but he looks up and it's Catherine. She asks if the seat next to him is taken and sits down and tells him she was the one to solve the cipher his mom left him (I'm guessing the recap probably explained that whole situation so hopefully you know what I'm talking about) and they hold hands and she smiles and he looks less than thrilled, and it cuts to the credits and that's it.

It was just...dumb.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-18 03:52 am (UTC)(link)
AYRT - That is... so weird. Just weird all around. All of it. XD
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[personal profile] des_pudels_kern 2020-04-18 07:23 am (UTC)(link)
I was wondering if I should watch the finale, for old times' sake, but. No. Thank you for saving me from wasting my time.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-18 04:14 pm (UTC)(link)
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Glad to keep you from wasting your time! It was just so disappointing. Honestly the whole show, but the last season especially, made it abundantly clear that Danny was the most important person in the world to him, and to just run off and leave him, especially while he wasn't yet recovered from a life-threatening injury (and all of his team/friends/found family) for someone who did nothing but hurt him every chance she got was just total bullshit.
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[personal profile] des_pudels_kern 2020-04-18 06:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The show was never good at romantic relationships, imo, especially in regards to Steve's and Danny's love interests. Both Catherine and Rachel were horribly written. I also lost a lot of interest when Chin and Kono left; the team bond and found family feel was the main draw for me, and I hated how the show dropped two of the team because they did not want to pay them properly. I watched for the character interactions, not the cases of the week of whatever clusterfuck was happening with Steve's parents backstory. Add to that less screen time for Danny - afaik because the actor wanted to spend more time with his family, so good for him, but ultimately that meant that Steve&Danny, the central relationship of this show, was less present.

Also, to be entirely honest, I... felt that Danny changed for the worse as the show went on? He started out mouthy but warm and open about his feelings, and imo the more well-adjusted and comfortable with expressing his emotions Steve became, the meaner and repressed Danny became. At least that's the impression I got. And I would be fine with a seasons-long story arc of Danny reacting to the trauma of his brother's death, but I doubt the show started to properly address this after I stopped watching.

Ultimately, I'm not surprised they didn't do this relationship justice in the finale. The show has repeatedly established how important the two of the are to each other, especially Danny to Steve, but they have time and again dropped the ball, and it shouldn't surprise me that they went with an ending that was heteronormative and had little basis but the assumption that of course a m/f romantic relationship must be the inevitable conclusion.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-19 03:34 am (UTC)(link)
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Definitely agree that the show sucked at writing romantic relationships, and also that it wasn't nearly as good after Chin and Kono left. I felt like they'd started to get a bit of that found family vibe back in the final season (the newer characters were more settled in and pretty well integrated into the team by that point) and from what I saw online, it seemed to be a fairly popular opinion within the last 4-5 episodes that Steve seemed to have finally found the family he was looking for and no one could imagine shoving in a romance in the finale at that point since it would seem to come out of nowhere. (And at that point, Catherine's most recent appearance was having a discussion with Steve about how they were better as friends and never should've been in a relationship to begin with.) And when they did it, it totally did seem to come out of nowhere.

Honestly, I didn't really notice a difference in Danny's personality, but it's been a really long time since I saw the first couple seasons so maybe I'm remembering wrong. And they hadn't addressed his brother's death at all since a few episodes after it happened, so you're right about that.

I'm not surprised, either, although I wish I was. The crazy thing was that even in the last episode they established that Danny was the most important person to Steve, up until the last few minutes when he was basically like "okay, see ya" and took off while Danny was still injured. It was so out of character and just...really weird.

There was an interview with the main writer where he went on about how Steve had to get married and have kids to have a fulfulling life because growing old with Danny on the beach (like they'd commented about a few different times throughout the show) wasn't enough for him and he had to have a wife and a kids to be happy, and it just really pissed me off. The way it was worded just seemed like a dig at Steve/Danny fans, and even aside from that, not everyone cares about marriage and kids. I mean, Steve and Danny together would've been my first choice, but since that apparently was never an option, I would've preferred Steve to be single (because aside from my shipping him with Danny, I'm not all that convinced that he was really all that interested in romantic relationships; he always seemed more interested in the job and his friends to me). But since Danny was single in the end (which was honestly surprising to me since he always had a girlfriend throughout the show, or wanted one when he didn't), I guess if both of them were single it would've been too gay since people could've imagined they got together after the finale or something? I don't know. It's just so fucking stupid, and I'm so tired of the same insanely predictable heteronormative bullshit all the damn time in everything ever. Like, just do something different for once, for fuck's sake.