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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-18 05:57 pm

[ SECRET POST #4852 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4852 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-04-18 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
I've always felt the same. A warship isn't the place for children and other civilians who would be put into harm's way with the normal operations of that warship.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-19 12:46 am (UTC)(link)
At the time that Enterprise was launched, they were in peacetime and it was an exploration ship. It made sense for that one, but any of the others, no.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-19 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Yeah, but that should have been revised by S5 at least! DS9 was a bit different, in that it was a station which was meant to be a Bajoran-Federation combined command and an important window on the greater universe for the recovery of Bajor.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-04-19 01:13 am (UTC)(link)
But they were exploring unknown space. Who sends children into territory that noone knows anything about? At least, I would expect that not to happen in a place like the Federation.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-19 04:07 am (UTC)(link)
The first thought I had when I read your comment was of Little House on the Prairie, where the Ingalls' went West into what was thought of as pretty much uncharted territory, and part of the reason they did was there were government incentives for families to go out there and "civilize" the area. During pioneer times at least there was a push to send families out because you can't build a society on a bunch of single dudes living in the wild.
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[personal profile] philstar22 2020-04-19 04:28 am (UTC)(link)
I thought of that too, which is why I specifically mentioned the Federation. It makes sense at the time Little House was set in. It doesn't make sense to me with a government like the Federation that the first ship they sent out to explore an area would have kids in. The Enterprise was not a settler ship. It was an exploration ship sent out by the government and manned by military members.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-20 03:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Especially since Starfleet has been getting crazy-ass reports about the stuff out in unexplored space for DECADES at this point, and from this ship's immediate predecessor to boot! Let's send out the civilian families on a ship whose purpose is to go on missions where encountering body-snatching monsters, virulent unknown diseases, giant space hands, time-bending phenomena, and more is not only a possibility, but entirely expected!
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2020-04-19 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
I think maybe they just did that to get more kids to watch Star Trek, which is kind of silly because a. a lot of kids already like Star Trek and b. what kid is going to identify with Wesley??

(Anonymous) 2020-04-19 12:55 am (UTC)(link)
The Wesley thing was really interesting - many kids younger than Wesley did think he was awesome and identified with him. Teenagers of his age (who Roddenberry thought would like him) absolutely despised him.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-19 07:03 am (UTC)(link)
My mother, who watched the show in her 20s, was shocked when I told her how much Wesley was hated. She liked everyone in the cast and never thought twice about Wesley. (Of course, she was mostly there for her crush on Picard, her adoration of Deanna Troi, and Riker's sideburns that she convinced my father to grow to connect his beard to his hair and which she was in fact completely right about. Every time I see old pictures of my dad with his beard just free-floating I think man, Riker did him a favor.)

(Anonymous) 2020-04-19 07:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Yes to TNG, what the fuck is up with that shit? But no to DS9. They live on a space station, it's civilian territory not military.
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[personal profile] melissatreglia 2020-05-03 10:43 pm (UTC)(link)
(I'm using this icon because it's the only TNG icon I have right now. I'm not actually/metaphorically facepalming, though.)

I can definitely see your point. Enterprise is an exploratory vessel (NOT a warship, as someone else commented, as that's Nu!Trek canon and not TNG canon), often going into unknown/potentially dangerous areas, areas that are potentially unsafe for children. Areas that make it necessary to arm an exploratory vessel with warheads "just in case".

On the other hand, IRL, there are families living and working on military bases all over the world. And, you could argue that, functionally, the Enterprise is a giant floating military base.

*shrug*

Personally, I think Picard should've made an order to evacuate the families to the nearest Starfleet outpost, once he and his team realised how dangerous their mission was becoming.