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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2008-11-24 04:41 pm

[ SECRET POST #689 ]


⌈ Secret Post #689 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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Re: 127

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-11-25 02:21 am (UTC)(link)
What, yelling at eachother all the time? SO ROMANTIC.

Well, it worked for Ron and Hermione.

Stating the facts is saying "It was Katara and Aang, and that's what the writers were going for." Being smug is saying "It was sooo stupid to've ever seen anything else!"

They "wound up" being wrong for each other. But then, most of us did not watch all the way to the final episode totally expecting it. Actually, none of us ever "totally" expected it.

It's not like the text of a show can only be seen by one interpretation and one interpretation only. I mean heck, Merchant of Venice. Just what ships was Shakespeare trying to write there?

Re: 127

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-11-25 02:35 am (UTC)(link)
Well, it worked for Ron and Hermione.

So this isn't the first time you've lost a ship war, huh?

I'll bite: Ron and Hermione had arguments and disagreements. They were never on opposite sides, never fighting out of genuine malice, and they were never trying to kill eachother. Zuko and Katara have made attempts on eachother's lives.

Stating the facts is saying "It was Katara and Aang, and that's what the writers were going for." Being smug is saying "It was sooo stupid to've ever seen anything else!"

And yet you refuse to answer - what was there to see? What was it that led you to believe it wouldn't be Aang and Katara? As the secret says, it's like looking an election poll that puts one side by 10 points and concluding that the other side will win.

They "wound up" being wrong for each other. But then, most of us did not watch all the way to the final episode totally expecting it. Actually, none of us ever "totally" expected it.

I don't even know what you're trying to say here, but their personalities did not change so drastically from S1 to S3 that you couldn't see from the start where that would wind up going.

It's not like the text of a show can only be seen by one interpretation and one interpretation only.

This is true. However, if you are going to say something is plausible, you need to supplement your argument with something factual. The show is up for interpretation, yes. THat doesn't mean I can say that there's a chance that Sokka and Azula could have wound up together or that Aang is actually a cyborg and expect to be taken seriously.

Re: 127

[identity profile] xanykaos.livejournal.com 2008-11-25 03:35 am (UTC)(link)
So this isn't the first time you've lost a ship war, huh?

Considering I wasn't participating in the actual war, and considering that I couldn't care less who anyone in Harry Potter ended up with, um...what?
(Okay, fine, my Harry Potter OTP was Fred Weasley/a pulse, so I guess I lost that one).

Didn't I answer it? I could swear I did. There wasn't anything like "Oh I like him/her" to see, fine, but there were little things that could have been seen as foreshadowing, interactions that snapped, etc.

It was never about one ship "winning" for me. Aang and Katara had a sweet ending. But for a while, it didn't seem completely unthinkable. And I'm sorry, but it seems to me a lot more plausible to think a wellrounded guy and a well-rounded girl might get together in a kid's fantasy show than thinking that a well-rounded guy and a psychopath could get together, or a kid could be a cyborg, or that they'd throw a m/m relationship in.

It just seemed plausible, okay. I'm sorry if it didn't to you, though it sounds like you didn't care about the ships, so I don't get why your pants are in a twist if someone says it seems plausible. People have gone and written why before on f!s. Some of us just saw chemistry. Some of us thought it just didn't seem that out-landish. I thought that their two personalities might actually compliment each other. Gosh. So sorry I was wrong.

Re: 127

[identity profile] paperclipchains.livejournal.com 2008-11-25 04:22 am (UTC)(link)
Didn't I answer it? I could swear I did. There wasn't anything like "Oh I like him/her" to see, fine, but there were little things that could have been seen as foreshadowing, interactions that snapped, etc.

What were they?

But for a while, it didn't seem completely unthinkable. And I'm sorry, but it seems to me a lot more plausible to think a wellrounded guy and a well-rounded girl might get together in a kid's fantasy show than thinking that a well-rounded guy and a psychopath could get together, or a kid could be a cyborg, or that they'd throw a m/m relationship in.

Then clearly you understand my point about how some viewings of the show are more valid and likely than others?

It just seemed plausible, okay. I'm sorry if it didn't to you, though it sounds like you didn't care about the ships, so I don't get why your pants are in a twist if someone says it seems plausible.

Because it isn't true. Seeing chemistry is not the same as thinking that they're going to end up together in canon. Seeing chemistry is perfectly alright. The amount of butthurt Zutarians exhibit over their pairing being non-canon is not alright, it's absolutely ridiculous.