[ SECRET POST #4856 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4856 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I've seen A LOT of fanarts of chubby/fat characters being drawn thin but never the opposite. I'd love to see those..

[wannabe_influential]

Do their chubby drawings involve stereotypes of fat people? That might have something to do with it

[(Anonymous)]

No? Maybe you just prefer the usual look of said characters.

[(Anonymous)]

this could be years of being on deviantart talking, but that's the kind of thing that makes me wary its a kink thing.

[(Anonymous)]

That's what I was coming down to say-- when I see thin characters drawn fat, it's almost ALWAYS a fetish, which makes me intensely uncomfortable as a fat person. One of my favorite characters from anything ever IS fat, and I hate that one of the popular artists who actually draws him that way is... VERY fetish-y about it.

BUT, some characters, it works for me-- I've liked artists who have taken cartoon/anime casts and added body shape diversity, but it's not just about drawing thin characters as bigger, it's about taking like... five or six girls with identical bodies and then saying 'okay, it makes sense for X to be shorter/fatter/more muscular'. Especially if it's something where everyone has the same body type but they TALK about a character as if they're fat.

It could be an artist who has a fetish, but it could also be an artist who is fat themselves and wants more diversity in body types, especially with cartoon/anime or book characters, where there's not an actor (it would probably be weird and off-putting to me for it to basically be 'X actor but fat' art? That would freak me out without that fetish spidey sense kicking in). And if it's not that you're picking up on a fetish thing... is it that they're not good at drawing fat bodies and it's hitting you wrong because you live in one? Even when it's not a fetish thing/when it's a canon fat character, I find it SUPER off-putting to see characters drawn very ROUND but without any sense of *weight*! They just look sort of balloony and unreal, and it's not always a case of fetish art, sometimes it's just that someone never learned how to draw fat. But either way it sets me off and I hate to see it.

[(Anonymous)]

I find most fetish art off-putting and the way a lot of fan artists draw chubby characters is very, very fetishy. It doesn't squick me as much as foot-fetish art does, but there you go.

[(Anonymous)]

I am so happy I have never come across foot-fetish art. I hope I never will.

[(Anonymous)]

Like it's probably not the case in your predicament, at all from the sounds of it, but I have seen people draw thin characters heavy in a sort of spiteful(? not the right word, but whatever) way. Not anything purposefully mean, just often with some sort comment like it's a more realistic/not hollywood look for the character.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm fat and I hate it. Hate it hate it hate it. It feels so patronizing. Not to mention that 99% of the time they're still drawn with absurdly small wrists/hands and ankles/feet to give off a sense of delicacy.

Like, seeing a character I love and maybe even identify with as fat doesn't make me feel empowered or happy. It just reminds me that I'm fat.

[(Anonymous)]

This exactly! It's also why I can't enjoy shows with fat main characters even though people around me seem to love the fat representation, it always reminds me that I was never the cool fat chick, I was just fat and bullied for it.

[(Anonymous)]

I’m trans and this is how I feel about canon characters randomly being declared trans by fandom— it’s either condescending “perfect boi uwu” infantalizing shit, someone’s kink, or an attempt to look like the most progressive member of fandom

[(Anonymous)]

I have this issue with character being drawn with a variety of skin conditions. More often than not, it's broderline offensive and fetishising. Like, no, having acne is not empowering, wtf.

[(Anonymous)]

I feel this way too. I idealize these characters and as an ideal, as a fantasy, I like to read about/see them drawn just as they were in canon. Now if they were already chubby? I wouldn't want them drawn skinny, either. I love some already fat characters! But when you change up an aspect of a character I liked, they aren't that same character anymore. And if I ALSO found them hot, you're messing with my tastes, and that's an instant turn-off. FWIW I am attracted to fat and or ugly characters too, just not ones that are CHANGED to fit a certain aesthetic in fanart/fic.

[(Anonymous)]

Maybe it’s because her art is deviating from canon? Inconsistencies might make it seem more like wish fulfillment on her end rather than just expressing love for a character.

[(Anonymous)]

For me it's like... if you're expressing love about this character, why are you changing them? Because that to me indicates that you don't actually love that character, you love what you imagine them to be in your head, at which point just go make your own OC that looks the way you want them to look.

[(Anonymous)]

Honestly, it bothers me too, and it has more to do with people changing canon aspects than anything else. Headcanons are supposed to fill in the blanks that canon left out, not write over what's already established. If I like a character then I like everything about them from canon, flaws and all. And I want fancontent of them the way I'm used to seeing them in canon. Sometimes people even changing hairstyles drives me up the wall. I never say anything to the people making and sharing such content because to each their own but personally I can't fuck with it.

I also really hate the apparent trend of changing/adding things to a character to get points for liking "diversity". It all feels so performative. Why not like a character that's already fat? or gay? or mentally ill? or disabled? or something? There's a lot more of them out there to identify with and celebrate than people think.

My own personal "I'm like this but I hate seeing it" is with autistic characters. Especially when it's really over the top and they keep beating you over the head with it that "x is autistic uwu". I don't know it makes me feel really uncomfortable even as an autistic person myself. I've identified with different characters without that having to be explicitly stated and it oddly makes me feel really infantalized when it happens? I don't know. I'd prefer a character be shown having sensory issues but it never being a Thing than a bunch of people on all my socials talking about how they stim all the time. Can anyone else relate to this?

And now I'm just thinking of Hunk and how no one took him seriously even though he was such a great character and Voltron was really popular in fandom circles when it was still going on. Yet the content for him was hard to find. Which is another thing, it's like some people will change a character (perhaps ones they don't care for much) to be X for the back pats but can conveniently ignore it since it isn't canon when interacting with other content/with canon but when they have a character that's X in canon they don't like it. It's performative as hell.

Just like the characters for what they are.