[ SECRET POST #4856 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4856 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

Eh, I think there's an enormous amount of space between "homophobia doesn't exist" and "no gay people can be happy in historical fiction". I adore stories about happily ever after gay couples, but it's not actually necessary to erase homophobia in order to make them happen. For pro examples, see historical romances by KJ Charles, Cat Sebastian, Joanna Chambers, Heather Rose Jones, etc., etc.

They're stories about couples who find happiness together, and who are out to a select group of supportive friends and/or family members, but who also have to deal with societal homophobia.

Which isn't to say that I think it's wrong to read and/or write homophobia-free alternate history stories; there's room for escapist fluff in this world. (Even if it's not anything I typically want to read myself.) But let's not pretend that this particular variety of escapist fluff is somehow a necessary requirement to writing queer historical happily ever afters.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT Cool, let's also not pretend I need to be told that when I'm reminded of it every single day by the real world and by popular media. I don't need to be "um actually'd" about the simple request that I have stories where my faves just do not have deal with homophobia, period.

Can they have happily ever afters with it? Of course, because real people did and do. But can I also just...NOT hear, for the duration of a single fic, how the world hates gays? For just a little while?

[(Anonymous)]

SA Hell, I don't even necessarily want fluff. Gimme some good drama and hurt/comfort any day--I just really REALLY don't need that pain to be about being gay throughout history, and I don't need to be told "well it's just more /accurate/" when I'm already reading fanfiction that by nature requires suspension of disbelief.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't need to be "um actually'd" about the simple request that I have stories where my faves just do not have deal with homophobia, period.

That wasn't my objection to your comment. I was "um actually"ing in response to your saying "but gods forbid we're allowed for one second to think that maybe gay people could be happy in history too." Because that was a ridiculously overreaching statement of yours.

Like I said, enjoy your homophobia-free escapism (fluff or otherwise). But maybe don't misrepresent M/M and F/F stories set in homophobic societies as being universally stories about miserable gay people, when the truth is that most of them are stories in which homophobia is just one of the MCs' external conflicts, and the MCs do get their happily ever afters in the end (just as they do in your preferred homophobia-free narratives).