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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-24 05:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #4858 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4858 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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[Hannah Rutherford]

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06. [SPOILERS for Star Trek: Picard]



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07. [SPOILERS for AI: The Somnium Files]




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08. [SPOILERS for What We Do In The Shadows, Season 2, Episode 2]



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09. [WARNING for transphobia]




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OP

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 01:16 am (UTC)(link)
I actually don't, but I've been in fandom a very long time and generally I can tell the difference between how women and men squee about it. Understanding that men and women are socialized differently is not the same as thinking men have to act macho.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
I'm gonna be real with you, chief, I've been in fandom for over twenty years, and I've been in queer spaces for maybe fifteen years, at a conservative estimate, and the way men and women act and how they squee is not that cut and dried. Some men get socialized a certain way and act a certain way even in safer spaces and feel comfortable that way. Some men squeal and flail and enthuse just as much as any teenage girl.

Not just transmasc guys, either-- though by your own token, trans men are socialized alongside girls and learn how to be more expressive long before they learn to 'be a man' about their interests. I've seen cis gay guys I know go from being pretty buttoned-down about their interests in one social sphere, to squeeing about fandom in another, just because they felt safer. I've known women who prefer trivia to fangirling. You can't 'tell' and it's incredibly offensive to suggest that someone is not the gender they claim to be based on their enthusiasm for something they love and the way that they love it.

PS, when I say 'queer spaces', I do mean out in the real world. I mean face to face with a variety of people, of a variety of genders, who are fucking individuals who express themselves individually.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 02:07 am (UTC)(link)
da

No, you can tell the difference between how people who've had the majority of their fandom socialization in spaces dominated by female fans squee about it, and how people who've had the majority of their fandom socialization in spaces dominated by male fans squee about it.

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 02:15 am (UTC)(link)
+1

Re: OP

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 04:46 am (UTC)(link)
+1000