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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-24 05:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #4858 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4858 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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06. [SPOILERS for Star Trek: Picard]



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07. [SPOILERS for AI: The Somnium Files]




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08. [SPOILERS for What We Do In The Shadows, Season 2, Episode 2]



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(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 06:44 am (UTC)(link)
[citation fucking needed]

literally every single slash author i've ever known in my entire life has been queer, with a huge chunk of that being lesbian women, i seriously have no idea where this idea that it's all straight cis women even comes from

DA

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 07:04 am (UTC)(link)
i seriously have no idea where this idea that it's all straight cis women even comes from

It comes from two main places.

1) As the discussion started by pointing out, for many of us, an interest in queer fiction is what led to the realization that we're queer. A lot of us got into it thinking we were straight cis girls, and "I'm a straight girl so two guys are hotter than one" was a common way to justify liking it (because girls always have to justify why they like slash, no matter how they identify).

2) It's a good narrative to push for people who hate slash to excuse bulling of its readers, because being straight and cis makes you privileged enough to be acceptably bullied in progressive spaces.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 02:02 pm (UTC)(link)
Googling slash writers women will bring up that most writers are, or were, straight women. Now that most people under 25 identify as """queer""" that may be true, but when I was in fandom the majority of slash writers were straight and bisexual women, a small fraction were lesbians. I don't understand what's wrong with this fact.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 02:09 pm (UTC)(link)
"when I was in fandom the majority of slash writers thought they were straight and bisexual women"

Fixed that for you. Believe it or not, most queer people aren't born knowing they're queer. They have to figure it out, and sometimes they hide it for a long time. And what a shock that there are suddenly more queer people now that being queer is less stigmatized than when you were in fandom.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 03:54 pm (UTC)(link)
You keeps saying kweer like it hasn't become some meaningless word.

Weird how actual same sex attracted people call themselves lesbian, gay or bisexual and all the hip cool kids call themselves kweer. It's almost like they've never had the slur queer thrown at them because they're not... Nevermind.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 04:19 pm (UTC)(link)
It’s funny, I’ve had lesbian (well, lesbo, but) and gay used as slurs aimed at me, even though I’m neither. I’m queer. Queer never got used as a slur where I grew up, it was always “that’s so gay,” or “ew, you’re not a lesbo, are you?”

And I don’t think bisexual was on anyone’s radar outside of LGBT advocacy spaces, mostly anyone who was bi probably would’ve just been called a slut. Tranny got thrown around occasionally.

But if anyone at my K-12 schools knew the word queer, they would definitely have used it as a slur. They just didn’t know the word. Every word for non-straight sexuality has been used as a slur somewhere, and when you’re not straight, or suspected of not being straight, bigots looking to insult you will use all the slurs they do know, even if they don’t even know which ones actually apply.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 05:07 pm (UTC)(link)
Queer has been used as a self-identifier by the entire community for literally decades. Like every other word we use to describe ourselves, yes, sometimes it's used as an insult, but that doesn't make it one.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 05:19 pm (UTC)(link)
And now it's been co-opted by agenders and enbies and straight couples like pegging. In the year 2020, queer means nothing, not when any kinkster and anyone who feels like an outsider is welcome under the umbrella.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 05:49 pm (UTC)(link)
Then quit bitching about it maybe or at least direct your anger to the straight people.

Also agender and nonbinary people have always been under the umbrella, you fucking weirdo.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 09:02 pm (UTC)(link)
lmao you literal infant, thinking that any of this is new at all... *pat, pat*

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 04:03 pm (UTC)(link)
Bisexual women are queer. If a woman is identifying as bisexual, she knows she's queer.