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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-24 05:40 pm

[ SECRET POST #4858 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4858 ⌋

Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.

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07. [SPOILERS for AI: The Somnium Files]




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08. [SPOILERS for What We Do In The Shadows, Season 2, Episode 2]



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09. [WARNING for transphobia]




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(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 05:09 pm (UTC)(link)
Your suspicions are probably correct. I used to believe I'm a transman, because I hated my female body. The reason I hated my female body was because periods suck, and it made people treat me differently than they treat a man. But online, you're told that if you hate your body then that means you have to be trans. Also, women in fandom police other women much harder than men do. As a "man" , I no longer felt like I wasn't feminist enough, or in the right way. I didn't feel like I had some sort of duty to all of womankind, that I must uphold every waking moment of my life. It felt liberating. What eventually changed my mind was taking a break from female-dominated fandom spaces and spending more time in male-dominated fandom spaces. Suddenly, discussions were no longer all about the problematic sociopolitical subtext in my favourite canons and which characters you're not allowed to ship, now the primary topic was which characters would win in a fight, and who knows the most obscure detail about the worldbuilding. It was a breath of fresh air, and it also made me realize how little in common with men I actually have.

I now have friends, who are also going through the same phase. One person in our friendgroup started identifying as a transman, and a week later everyone was a transman. They do absolutely nothing to pass as male other than change their pronouns, they still sometimes refer to themselves as women and lesbians. But if using male pronouns makes them feel more comfortable, then that's what I'm going to do. At the end of the day, I'm not their therapist, so it's not my place to fix their problems.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 05:51 pm (UTC)(link)
Dear god your experiences are not universal and your social group sounds exhausting.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 07:15 pm (UTC)(link)
Person explains why she thought she was a transman, explaining her reasons better than people who say they're trans because they "feel" like a man or woman and the only response is to scoff. typical.

your social group sounds exhausting.

you're trying to say online spaces aren't full of users suggesting a person may be trans because they don't fit certain gender stereotypes or hate how their bodies work. For a movement that claims its knocking down gender roles it sure is full of people who can't define what it means to be a man or a woman beyond gender stereotypes. Even when trans people claim they're butch lesbians or feminine men, it still comes off as cosplay without experiencing the struggle of being an actual masculine female or feminine male.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 07:54 pm (UTC)(link)
I'm the person who wrote the comment you're referring to, and your last line is pretty ironic. This idea of a "struggle" that every woman supposedly goes through is one of the reasons why I thought I wasn't a real woman. I didn't experience half of the examples of sexism that are supposedly a universal female experience. In fact, like I said in my original comment, I found male-dominated spaces to be much more comfortable for me as a woman than female-dominated spaces. You talk about transgender people clinging too close to gender norms, but you're the one who makes me feel like I'm forced into a small box because of my sex, and it's making me feel dysphoric all over again.

For the record, my comment was never supposed to doubt the existence of real transgender people. I was merely pointing out that not all people who claim to be transgender online really are. None of my friends would ever go through the effort of transitioning, and despite my feelings about my body, I probably wouldn't either.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 07:55 pm (UTC)(link)
Bold of you to think your explanation was "better" than an actual trans person's explanation of their own goddamn experiences.

And yet your arguments against the "movement" are ALSO chock full of references to gender as if its simultaneously immutable and liable to get knocked down by a single breath of wind. Every trans person I know CAN explain how they feel, and I have never once felt that stereotypes play into it, though they sure as hell play into how terfs think they should be.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 08:02 pm (UTC)(link)
The difference is, you met real transgender people. I didn't. I've met a whole lot of confused and troubled women who thought they are transgender, but obviously aren't.

Also, you seem to believe AYRT and I are the same person. We are not. I don't even agree with their interpretation of my story.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-25 07:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I never claimed it was universal. I'm just pointing out that not all people claiming to be transmen online actually are transmen for real. And there's nothing exhausting about using someone's preferred pronouns. It's basic politeness that anyone other than a complete asshole has no trouble with. Our discussions are way less exhausting than most of the arguments on fandom secrets, that's for sure.