[ SECRET POST #4859 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4859 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

This happened to me with Ciel/Elizabeth.

But usually I just divorce that side of the fandom which annoys me.

[(Anonymous)]

I disliked Elizabeth initial before you understood her reasoning behind why she acts like she does, because she does come across as one of those hyper-annoying anime girls.

But especially in Book of the Atlantic she was badass AF.

DA

[(Anonymous)]

I'm the opposite. She was cute and funny at first, being badass ruined her and made her a cliche. But I have to pretend I still like her so people don't think I'm just making excuses for hating the girl in the way of Sebaciel (which I don't even ship).

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

See, I didn't find the weird clingy/uber perky cute, just annoying lol. So even just her logic behind it helped make it less annoying, but yeah I like the badassery, even if it's cliche.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

DA Same. I thought it was sweet.

Re: DA

[(Anonymous)]

I wish I'd find more "cliches" like her.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah, that's how I ended up liking Orihime and Hinata so much.

[(Anonymous)]

Looks at secret #2 pointedly.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm one of those slash writers who's forever debating on what to do about canon love interest. It's extra hard with a female character I like or when the canon het ship actually works.
I've never liked a character because of bashing. I generally don't mind bashing even if it's about my fandom fave, maybe that's why.

[(Anonymous)]

I don't mind character bashing in the sense of sometimes we all just have that character/ship people won't shut up about that drives us up the wall and we need to have a space to vent about it. But I don't agree with bothering fans of the character/ship with it. As long as someone isn't being toxic with their thoughts and constantly bothering other fans that like the stuff they don't then they should be able to express them, even if those feelings aren't positive sunshine and rainbows all the time. It can be very, very frustrating to not be allowed to have an opinion because "you can't openly dislike something other people like you'll hurt their feelings!"

I'm sort of the opposite of this OP though. Sometimes a character/ship I'm neutral on or dislike but rather passively will turn into a character/ship I actively loathe because people won't stop talking about it or trying to get me to like it. Every fandom has at least one of those character(s)/ship(s) that are almost impossible to avoid regardless of if you like it or not. And for people like me it's hard not to become more and more averse to something I feel is being pushed on me. But being a reasonable adult I don't lash out about it and just do my best to ignore the things I don't like.

Though I will say (especially as someone who ships M/M, M/F, and F/F) it's baffling the amount of hate M/F ships get for being boring/straight/het. As if the rivalry isn't between a particular ship but the genders in the pairing. I don't get it at all. It also erases bisexual and trans fans and characters who would fall into the M/F category as well because the reason I've seen them bashed is that they're "heteronormative". Ugh. Just let people ship whatever the fuck they want.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt
Definitely agreed on people expressing their negative opinions. As long as it's tagged.

Yeah, sometimes juggernaut pairings start to get on one's nerves, I feel this.

I'm guilty of having higher standarts for M/F, and can count het pairings I actually actively ship on one hand. Not sure exactly why. I'm a bit jealous of people with more diverse tastes -- they have more fic to read.

Sometimes it feels like some people are not aware of bisexuality being a thing, I swear. Like a character can be either straight or gay with nothing in between. And no one even writes about trans characters or headcanons in my fandom circles.

[(Anonymous)]

I see we’re living in the early 2000s with this secret since most modern slash shippers ignore the female character usually because of misogynistic writing tropes embedded in her character or the fact that her role is literally just to be the love interest and nothing else.

[(Anonymous)]

You...say that like it's a fact.

[(Anonymous)]

Nah, there are plenty of people enjoying shows and other media written in these past few years that just love to bash female characters.

[(Anonymous)]

You're going to get so many defensive comments from fans of shallow female characters, but you're absolutely right. Either that or they go one step further and turn the female character into a self-insert who's smart and savvy and amazing and is the biggest shipper and love sage for the two shipped characters.

[(Anonymous)]

yup, look upthread. “Yaoi fangirls” who bash female characters for “getting in the way” haven’t been prevalent in years. And if they are around they’re like, 13-16 at most and 1) probably aren’t producing any worthwhile content and 2) are literal teenagers who lack maturity and will eventually grow out of it so to bully them is dumb.

People who still push this narrative I notice tend to be salty relena/kairi fans of yore who refuse to admit canon failed them and would rather bash on shippers for not caring for shallow generic soft girl than hold the creators accountable for not writing a female decent character.

[(Anonymous)]

Salty fans of ANY completely mediocre female character. My main fandom right now is FFXV, and it astonishes me that someone as pointless and mediocre as Luna not only has fans at all, but incredibly defensive, incredibly mean fans. I get ragged on constantly for not loving her, and it's assumed that it's due to me shipping Noct with one of the guys, but... I don't! I don't ship anyone in this game, I just love the friendships. And Luna is an absolute non-entity. You could wholesale replace her with the magic dogs and not that much would change.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never played FFXV, but my God.

You sound like a complete dick.

I don't think it's only the Luna fans that are aggressively nasty, here.

[(Anonymous)]

I've never played it either, and they sound perfectly fine. They'd only be a dick if Luna was a real person who could read what AYRT said about her and get her feelings hurt.

[(Anonymous)]

Nayrt
It's obvious you never played it because ayrt is completely right. That you go off on them without knowing anything about this fandom, calling ayrt names despite not knowing what's going on while accusing THEM of being aggressively nasty? That says much more about you than about ayrt.

[(Anonymous)]

da

There was an interesting video I saw on youtube that compared the romance plots of FFX (good) and FFXV (bad), and one of the big points was how Noctis and Luna don't share scenes/have dialogue with each other beyond a handful of childhood days spent together where they basically acted like siblings.
Basically, she brings nothing to the plot, romantically speaking, and I agree.

+1,000

[(Anonymous)]

All of this.