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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-04-28 06:25 pm

[ SECRET POST #4862 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4862 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-04-29 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like 'Mary Sue' is just a convenient screen for misogyny too often.

I think this is true, but I also think a lot of guys truly do not realize their feelings about the character are motivated at least partially by sexism.

They don't realize that what they totally eat up as being awesome and badass for male characters, is the same stuff they reject as being unrealistic and "Mary Sueish" for female characters. And when you point it out to them, they always have some (weak) reason why it's different when it's [that male character]. It makes sense for him to be an exceptional badass who's better than everyone because [blah, blah, blah]. And it's like, you could literally make that same argument for all the female characters you think are Mary Sues...but you don't. I wonder why.
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[personal profile] silverr 2020-04-29 02:37 am (UTC)(link)
This is one of the best summaries of this I've read. Brav*, nonny!

(Anonymous) 2020-04-29 02:48 am (UTC)(link)
That's a phenomenon that happens all over the ding dong place, whether it's sexism, racism, or whatever. Hell, for as much crap as it got (some of which was deserved), Big Bang Theory pointed this out when some character was talking about racial insensitivity in media and someone brought up Apu on The Simpsons and they were like, no that's different. I like Apu.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-29 04:03 am (UTC)(link)
"they always have some (weak) good reason"

WRITERS ARE SEXIST AND FEMALE CHARACTERS SUBJECT TO WORSE WRITING. WHY IS THIS THE VIEWER'S FAULT.

(Anonymous) 2020-04-29 08:37 am (UTC)(link)
This is EXACTLY how I feel. You ask a dudebro what he feels makes Rey a Mary Sue - then you list everything that ANAKIN every did that was 10x more overpowered. They will insist Anakin's skill makes sense, whereas Rey's is "bad writing". They will never gain any self awareness.