[ SECRET POST #4862 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4862 ⌋

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Comments

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Congratulations, pissy reader! Someone didn't finish a fic you liked! Now you're bitter as fuck!

Yeah, no. I don't even write fic, I'm just not that great of an asshole to take over something someone else put a lot of hard work into. Not asking and pretending you're doing them a favour is just delusional, they don't ask because they don't want the author to say no. Maybe because it sucks to put all that effort into something just to have someone else take that away?

[(Anonymous)]

Wow. You probably shouldn't consume fanworks at all, in that case.

Turns out, it's all based on something someone else put a lot of hard work into and none of the authors or artists asked permission first.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

Dude. Those are two completely different things, clearly. Deflecting does nothing to prove your argument. Give me one reason that someone shouldn't ask before posting the ending someone elses fic for kudos and comments. Write it for yourself if you can't stand to see it unfinished, but ask for permission before you post it. Common decency. Say it with me, maybe you'll get it this time.

[(Anonymous)]

How is it different? As long as the second author doesn't claim the original fic as their work and gives credit to the original author, how is it any different from writing a fanfic of an original property? (Legitimately asking for your viewpoint, not trying to be a jerk.)

[(Anonymous)]

The only way it can possibly be different is if AYRT thinks that canon creators are a subclass of human compared to fanfic authors.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt

I consider it different since in fanfiction we're all taking from the same source and putting our own unique twists, turns, and interpretations to it. We're all on the same playing field in a sense, because we are all doing this for fun.
Like, finishing someone elses fic is different than writing something inspired by that persons work. Finishing it for them is taking over their fic, it eliminates the unique properties the author added and intended for their work, I'm not saying people shouldn't do it, just that they should ask first and respect the authors answer. Writing something inspired by a persons work would be the equivalent to writing fanfic of fanfic since you're taking their unique interpretations and adding your own. It's more out of respect, than out of the apparent need to see the fic finished.

The simple fact that we can very easily contact each other and ask/have a conversation about it is what makes it different, so not reaching out when it's so simple to do so comes across as very rude to me.

Obviously I'm not the best at explaining things, so hopefully this answers your question or makes some sort of sense.

[(Anonymous)]

NAYRT - The bottom line here is that some of us ITT believe there should be different standards of etiquette for fanfic writers as for writers of original fiction, and some of us ITT believe the standards of etiquette should be the same for both.

I fundamentally disagree with you that there should be different standards of etiquette for each. In fact, I find it laughably absurd that a fanfic writer would argue there should be different standards of etiquette afforded to their work than to a published author's work.

The simple fact that we can very easily contact each other and ask/have a conversation about it is what makes it different, so not reaching out when it's so simple to do so comes across as very rude to me.

So you're saying that if you could write to the creator(s) of whatever text you write fic for, and ask them for permission to write fanfic based on their text, you would do that? And if they said no, you would heed their wishes?

Because that just seems kind of crazy to me. I do not remotely care whether the creator(s) of the texts I'm fannish about are "okay" with fanfic. In fact, I think authors like Anne Rice, who attempt to stop people from publicly sharing fanfic based on their works, are belligerent, controlling, and lacking in perspective.

[(Anonymous)]

ayrt



Read what I'm writing. This is not what I'm saying. Finishing someone else's fanfic is not making fanfic of that fic. These authors don't have to share their fic, so ask before you post something you are not owed. Completely ignoring their opinion is rude, plain and simple. That is what I'm saying.

Like are you trying to miss the point? Obviously you don't need to contact published work, because being a fan of their work is not the same as being a fan of a fanfic creator's work. Like seriously.

[(Anonymous)]

Finishing someone else's fanfic is not making fanfic of that fic.

Yes, it is.

Obviously you don't need to contact published work, because being a fan of their work is not the same as being a fan of a fanfic creator's work.

Yes, it is.

Completely ignoring their opinion is rude, plain and simple.

In this case, no, it isn't.

Like are you trying to miss the point?

I've been thoroughly wondering the same about you. Pretty sure you're just thinking with your feelings, though.

[(Anonymous)]

I'm a different anon than the one you're arguing with, and hoooo boyyyyy reading this thread was horrifying, I hope there's not a lot of people like you in my fandoms because this whole mindset is so rude. If writing endings for someone else's fic is okay then, like, should drawing fanart of someone else's OCs is okay to you too?
this is just so wrong.

[(Anonymous)]

nayrt

Lmao, drawing fanart of your OCs for free is excellent, what are you talkng about?

WTF?

[(Anonymous)]

Are...are you TRYING to defeat your own argument? Drawing fanart of someone's OCs is ABSOLUTELY fine. Like, that's not even a debate.

[(Anonymous)]

I would love it if people drew shit from my fics, including OCs!

[(Anonymous)]

should drawing fanart of someone else's OCs is okay to you too?

I'm assuming you're trolling, but on the very small chance you're not...

Yes. You have literally defined all fanart. If fanart is okay to you then drawing art of someone else's OCs is okay to you.

[(Anonymous)]

MTE. It's so weird to me that AYRT thinks fanfic based on fanfic should be held to different regulatory standards than fanfic based on original fiction. Like, no?