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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-04 06:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #4868 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-05-04 10:53 pm (UTC)(link)
People can totally be be forgiven for using American terms for English things if they're unaware. Soccer, for instance. Sidewalk. We'd never say those things, but we might forgive a less worldly or research orientated (yeah, orientated, not oriented haha) writer for making those errors. Especially strict regionalisms. I mean, I don't know which parts of America call fizzy drinks pop/soda/sodapop/use coke as a general word for it and apparently each state is different about it, but something like Thanksgiving..?

That's next level, that is.

Even if you're unaware of UK/US term differences, I'd hope they know enough about the history of THEIR OWN HOLIDAY to figure out on their own why English people wouldn't celebrate it. Surely they teach their kids the meaning and history of Thanksgiving from a young age. Even a sanitised and romanticised version of it. Surely. I mean, we learned about the sodding Gunpowder Plot and origin of Guy Fawkes night at about age 7 or so, so I'd hope they are taught young about one of their most important holidays! Young enough that they should be aware of it by the time they're blasting fanfic into the void.

Furthermore ... it's never mentioned in the books or movies, unlike Christmas and Yule, Easter, Valentine's Day and Halloween. For a holiday as important to Americans as Thanksgiving, if we celebrated it here, it would be mentioned in the books or films. There'd be a big feast for it! With Dr. Filibusters Fabulous Wet-Start, No Heat Fireworks! ;)

(Anonymous) 2020-05-04 11:20 pm (UTC)(link)
We definitely learn the origin. Basically the story goes something like this:

“The pilgrims came over on the Mayflower to escape religious persecution. They didn’t know how to farm in the New World (or came too late in the year for a good harvest? or something) but friendly Indians from the local tribe (I specifically remember the name Squanto) took pity on them, helped the pilgrims learn how to farm properly, and shared food with them. That first feast held between the two communities to celebrate a good harvest was the first Thanksgiving.”

I remember when I was very small that we had a “Thanksgiving” in the school cafeteria and we all had to dress up as either pilgrims or Indians.

So yeah, anyway, I doubt my experience was unique and most kids in the US are indeed taught something about the origin (romanticized or otherwise) of the holiday and that origin would definitely make it obvious why it’s a specifically American thing.

Now I want to see a fic where they celebrate American Independence Day in HP, lol.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-05 02:18 am (UTC)(link)
I mean. Americans are baffled when people in other countries don't celebrate the 4th of July. Asking them to comprehend that other countries also don't celebrate (their) Thanksgiving is being a little harsh on the poor dears.