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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-04 06:09 pm

[ SECRET POST #4868 ]


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(Anonymous) 2020-05-05 09:50 am (UTC)(link)
I am not trying to criticize you at all, here, but wow, there’s just so much that’s weird with this whole thing.

Like, I do find the person who ran Tattle-Crime and went by Freddie Lounds incredibly suspicious, and it does seem pretty likely that she is Jennifer Cornett of the FF7 House. I just wish there were concrete proof.

Also, I don’t trust the person “exposing” her one bit. Almost all the “expose” material you can find on this whole thing is curated by this one single person. That is already a little bit of a question mark for me. But then you get this reddit post where it is claimed that the person attempting to expose Jen(?) is a user who previously went by the name MissMisanthropy, and was a volatile person who had, herself, become persona non grata within multiple communities, including the Hannibal fandom.

https://www.reddit.com/r/Drama/comments/6aor0f/the_fannibal_cult_and_the_crazed_stalker/

And you can definitely see her volatility and obsessiveness coming through in her posts to thelifestream message boards:

https://thelifestream.net/forums/threads/jen-the-sarah-saga-and-where-she-went.17745/

First, the way she keeps posting repeats of the same posts over and over when they don’t appear instantaneously. And then, by page three, she becomes quite clearly angry and hostile to the other people posting to thelifestream (even though they remain chill), and blames them for “letting Jen get away.” Three full years after posting to thelifestream forum for the first time, she still comes back to rail at them for their “stupidity.”


Also, she comes across as weirdly hostile to Cleolinda in that video you linked me to - going out of her way to speak ill of Cleolinda every chance she gets. Such as when she says Cleolinda “writes insanely bad parodies that aren’t even funny,” calls Cleolinda’s wiki page “sad,” and seems extremely salty that CNN did a tiny piece on Cleo.

The hostility of the vidder may not be immediately obvious to everyone, because she speaks in a calm, flat voice. But the words she’s saying are unmistakably hostile. Cleolinda’s parodies were widely considered hilarious, so to call them “insanely bad and not even funny” without ANYTHING to indicate that it’s purely an opinion, is just weird. And acknowledging someone has a Wiki page only to call it sad? WTF? That is so weird.

Do I think Freddie Lounds of Tattle-Crime was Jen? Probably. Do I believe Cleolinda had a friendship of some sort with her? Seems that way.

But wow, I do not trust the person who made that video you linked me to at all. Even if her information does turn out to be legit, her perspective is clearly biased as fuck.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-05 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
ayrt and honestly, I agree with you. The vidder obviously has some personal stake in this. Cleolinda's writing is very funny and she's popular for a reason.

It seems like everyone involved in this drama is an absolute fruitcake including the youtuber, but to me that only makes it weirder that Cleolinda does seem to have some link to Jen, even if they're only 'friends' or whatever. Why would you be friends with a sociopathic cult scammer who has ruined the lives of dozens of vulnerable people? It doesn't make any sense. Obviously none of us know Cleolinda in real life and we can only speculate on the nature of the relationship, but it's weird she's even involved at ALL, let alone in what capacity.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-05 10:33 am (UTC)(link)
Why would you be friends with a sociopathic cult scammer who has ruined the lives of dozens of vulnerable people?

I don't really get it myself, but honestly, even highly intelligent people can be suckered. My best friend graduated with a 99% GPA, top of the whole school, and for the whole of senior year she was in a secret platonic-but-very-intense relationship with a guy who demanded she be there for him 24/7 (online) and support him through every tiny mood swing or he would kill himself and it would be her fault. She had to leave town for a month to feel like she could break free of his influence (even though all she had to do was log off). Some people just get taken in deep by that kind of manipulation.

Who knows what sob story Jen told CL that made her seem so much less toxic and so much less to blame for all her past behavior than she actually was.

If CL did actually scam people with her, then yeah, that's super fucked up and inexcusable. But I haven't seen anything to indicate CL did any scamming. Seems more like they helped each other along in fandom a bit, and maybe CL, as her "friend," tried to coax Jen to get healthier. And even that's just speculation.

Also, it looks like that youtuber making all the expose vids on this really is a piece of work herself. I found a forum discussing her. It's not a very nice forum, but they provide a lot of receipts:

https://lolcow.farm/snow/res/900676.html

(Anonymous) 2020-05-05 11:00 am (UTC)(link)
Oh wow that thread is a whole meal. I'll be reading that for a while! Seems like everyone involved in this is off their rocker tbh