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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-07 09:24 pm

[ SECRET POST #4871 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4871 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-08 01:22 pm (UTC)(link)
Endgame did ruin Steve's character. And it had nothing to do with Stucky.
Firstly, Peggy had her own life. When he saw her last, she told him to move on. So he did awkwardly with her niece. How does time travelling Steve explain that?
Also, it makes no sense in regards to Steve's arc. His arc was always about moving on from the past. He's made friends here in the present, has a purpose. Bucky, like it or not, was a major influence on him. Now he's just going to leave him in the present, where he is still working through his anguish of only just being cured of the Winter Soldier.
What about people like Sam or WAnda? Steve was helping WAnda.
Then there's Peggy herself. She had her own life and kicked Hydra butt. Now she's just become 'Steve's love interest'.
Then there's the problems that staying in the past brings up. He's going to know everything that happens in the future and be helpless to stop it. To me, this makes him an asshole. He leaves Bucky to be tortured, Tony's parents to die.
The writer's themselves can't seem to decide whether this is the present time line or an alternate one. Even if it's an alternate one, it still makes Steve an asshole. What right does he have to interfere with PEggy's life like that? She was happy without him. Of course, some people predict the 'husband' was Steve all along.
It just makes it all too murky.
The Russos and writers wanted a 'bow' ending, which frankly didn't work.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-08 01:42 pm (UTC)(link)
Even if it's an alternate one, it still makes Steve an asshole. What right does he have to interfere with PEggy's life like that? She was happy without him.

Except it doesn't make him an asshole. In an alternate timeline, she's lived one life without him, and she's an autonomous human being who can decide, "Get the fuck out of my life, Steve, because I'm over you/I've moved on/I'm busy/I find that you coming back for me is creepy AF/I find that you coming back for me is sweet but I don't think this will work." She apparently decided to live a life with him, despite everything.

I'm not saying any of it was written well or even thought out well, but I think Peggy deserves a little more credit than that.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-08 02:41 pm (UTC)(link)
The more I think about this timeline, the worse it gets. So, we've got Future!Steve in the past while Contemporary!Steve is frozen in the ice and Contemporary!Howard is spending millions of dollars and neglecting his family for his "Let's find Steve!" campaign and Bucky's being tortured by Hydra. Let's ignore that Steve's ignoring all that. Is Steve Peggy's secret husband during all this? Is he Clark Kenting it up in the past to keep his friends/enemies/loved ones who aren't Peggy off his trail? Just, wtf Steve?