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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-17 04:58 pm

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 01:56 am (UTC)(link)
I feel like WHMS was a Top Of It's Genre romcom in its time. But perspectives change and develop, and yeah, the "men and women can't be friends" rhetoric that's at the core of the movie definitely hasn't aged well.

From a 2020 perspective, I think what really pisses me off about the "men and women can't be friends" argument is that it frames the issue as being equally about men and women, and IMO it's just not. Like, is there honestly any question at all whether women are capable of caring about men they don't want to bang? No. The real question is whether men are capable of caring about women without wanting to bang them. "Men and women can't be friends" is basically just a disingenuous way of saying "men just don't really care about women unless she's a woman they're fucking or hoping to fuck."

Which is true of some men, but not of all men, so it does both men and women a disservice.

But I think in 1989 it just seemed like pragmatic thinking.
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[personal profile] greghousesgf 2020-05-18 01:59 am (UTC)(link)
Even in 1989 I thought it was bullshit....

(Anonymous) 2020-05-18 02:09 am (UTC)(link)
I mean, sure, but you're not the point. The point is, most people didn't. The prevailing sentiment was that it was just a pragmatic (if perhaps slightly cynical) way of looking at gender relations.