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⌈ Secret Post #4881 ⌋

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[(Anonymous)]

I agree with you in terms of needing canon representation-- it's about damn time we had more of it, and I'm sick to death of when shows who DO have gay characters show far less of their relationship than they do of the straight couples-- if two characters are of equal importance in terms of general screentime/plot involvement, but the straight guy gets a whole courtship with on-screen relationship development and PG kisses, and the gay guy has a boyfriend but we don't get to see the same development, and their interactions are shot in much lower lighting, it's kind of clear we're not getting a fair shake. (I've been in two separate fandoms where canon m/m couples got shafted by the lighting department as much as by the writers just not knowing how to let gay people be happy)

That said, I DO want slashable pairings too. I don't need every ship to be canon! I want some of them to be, but just like I don't enjoy every canon romance in things I watch as it is, there's no guarantee I'd love the canon queer ships more than I'd love thinking about two best friends falling in love. It's not an either-or. Representation is vital, but fandom is supposed to be fun, and it's about having freedom from being wed to canon. I might wind up loving a canon gay ship but still also ship a couple other men (or a couple other women) just because they have good chemistry and I'm interested in those friends-turned-lovers ships whether or not canon goes that way.

I love the gay couple in one of my shows-- the amount of fic I've written compared to the screentime they've had so far is a testament to that. I wasn't just excited to get representation, but excited about those characters together because of the way they met and the chemistry they have, and how much trust they've built... but I still love shipping two guys who have only ever had female love interests in canon, because they've been through a lot together and love spending time together and have cute banter.

[(Anonymous)]

Fair enough. I have never been particularly interested in shipping non-canon couples (and I have an amazing track record of being able to predict which particular pairings will end up canon even if they don't start that way). For me, the fun is in building upon and exploring what I see, not making up stuff from things I ~want~ to see, if that makes sense. But I agree that representation is not enough. I don't ship a couple just because they're canon. I need more than that.

[(Anonymous)]

AYRT and yeah, I can usually spot the Designated Endgame pretty early on. Sometimes it's good, but boy, I hate those times that I like a character and then the love interest is introduced and I KNOW, but I absolutely hate them... which for me is where non-canon shipping might come into play.

But for me also, like... I watch a lot of older media where I know I'm not going to get canon queer characters, and that changes how I feel about characters who are queercoded but not portrayed as openly gay/bi/etc, compared to how I feel when a current show or movie does the same thing. If I'm watching a movie from the 50s or a show from the 80s, I'm working from a different set of criteria, and if I'm watching something from the past decade, like... my standards are context specific.