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Case ([personal profile] case) wrote in [community profile] fandomsecrets2020-05-20 05:23 pm

[ SECRET POST #4884 ]


⌈ Secret Post #4884 ⌋

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 09:39 pm (UTC)(link)
Sometimes I think this is intentional to make the character more ~exotic.

But, honestly, there are very few people with eye color SO striking that it needs to be described at all. I'm guilty of this myself sometimes, I admit, but still. In reality, most people aren't going around making note of others' eye colors all the time.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 09:58 pm (UTC)(link)
I dunno. I like reading about what characters look like, even if their features aren't exotic or striking. As long as the writer doesn't make a big, clumsy production out of describing them, that is.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 10:07 pm (UTC)(link)
With original characters, maybe one or two descriptions might be fine, if done well. If, as the secrets suggests, it's a character played by a Google-able actor, then it becomes less important.

And the key here is it's almost never done well. Especially if focusing on something as trite as eye color.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 10:54 pm (UTC)(link)
there are very few people with eye color SO striking that it needs to be described at all.

I generally don't like when a character is first introduced and we get a description of their eye color. It tends to feel prosaic and unnecessary to me. Like you said, how often do we actually consciously think about people's eye color when we meet them?

OTOH, if the characters are in love with each other (or even in lust with each other), then I think it feels very appropriate that they are constantly noticing and thinking about details about each other. When you're in love with someone, all those little details suddenly seem meaningful.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 11:13 pm (UTC)(link)
yEAH! I don't need a full physical description at a character's introduction, just their most striking feature or features, depending on who's eyes we're seeing through. BUT, if it's a scene between two characters who have known each other and are in love/falling in love, then even if there's nothing NEW about the color of a character's eyes, it feels appropriate to bring it up.

But, to address the secret itself, man yeah. It drove me crazy recently in a fic where a character's eyes were CONSISTENLY described as icy blue-- like, it came up way too often-- and the actor's eyes are a very gold-leaning hazel. I'd have accepted amber, even brown just because the lighting on the show tends to be so dark, but they're kind of the opposite of blue?? It was so weird to me that the writer just decided to change that-- I guess for the contrast?

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 11:23 pm (UTC)(link)
SA- oh sure, it works much better with established relationships vs. first meetings, but even then I'd prefer to have authors be a little more creative and focus on more character-driven details or personality traits or something.

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 11:19 pm (UTC)(link)
This annoys me too, but eye color description annoy me in general. I've just read too many fics where writers go on and on about a character's color-changing amethyst orbs.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 11:53 pm (UTC)(link)
I always giggle when brown-eyed folks are described as having chocolate eyes. I get an image of someone taking a bite out of it, like a thick-shelled truffle.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 12:22 am (UTC)(link)
oh god there was one skins writer back in the days when anybody cared about skins who used "chocolate orbs" LITERALLY EVERY OTHER PARAGRAPH and it drove me fucking nuts

(way too much sapphire too)
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[personal profile] tabaqui 2020-05-21 12:54 am (UTC)(link)
Especially because the color of a chocolate truffle, for instance, and the color of actual brown eyes is....really nothing alike.

Brown eyes have much more 'color' to them, if that makes sense - chocolate is kinda dull.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 01:46 am (UTC)(link)
"His eyes were the loveliest shade of brown, shit brown to be precise."
thedivinegoat: Chocolate balls with electricity sparking over them; Text - There was a spark of something in his chocolate orbs. (Sparking Chocolate Balls)

[personal profile] thedivinegoat 2020-05-21 04:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Going to de-anon for my icon.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 01:45 am (UTC)(link)
Yes, I hate this so much. It's so poorly done, every, single, time.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-20 11:52 pm (UTC)(link)
Dean from Supernatural?

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 12:28 am (UTC)(link)
This was 100% my guess too, anon. I remember this happening ALL THE TIME back when I used to read Supernatural fic.

+1

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 02:10 am (UTC)(link)
I was literally coming down here just to say 'you can say Jensen Ackles, it's okay'

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 12:44 pm (UTC)(link)
OMG

ALL. THE. FUCKING. TIME.

On what planet are this man's eyes blue?!?!?!

That's pretty frustrating.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 12:07 am (UTC)(link)
I guess some could actually be partially colorblind, but the sheer number of people getting the wrong eye color (and hair color) in fic makes me wonder if they were paying attention at all. Sometimes I even start to wonder if everyone has the same color definitions, but that disturbs me so I try to steer away from it.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 02:56 am (UTC)(link)
I love eye colour mentions and I give some leway in cases of blue/gray and green/hazelnut eyes as they're very similar. It's not always one or the other. You can find the whole threads on Cumberbatch's eye colour.

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 08:55 am (UTC)(link)
+1, I have yellowish-green eyes with a dark blue ring around the iris and I get everything from "blue" to "green" to "brown" to "yellow". Lighting makes a big difference!

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 04:33 pm (UTC)(link)
My eyes are a geyish blue, unless I'm upset in which case they look green. Basically the more bloodshot my eyes are, the greener they are.

When I had my eye op and the whites of my eyes were completely red and I was crying blood my eyes were incredibly green.

Not an attractive look mind you.

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(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 05:00 am (UTC)(link)
Honestly depending on the quality of both the photo and your screen eye colors can be hard to tell appart.

(See me googling several pictures of Eddie Redmayne, magnifying them, poring into his eyes, and still being unable to decide how to colour my Newt Scamander fanart.)

(Anonymous) 2020-05-22 12:09 am (UTC)(link)
They are light brown, right?

(Anonymous) 2020-05-21 09:56 am (UTC)(link)
It depends, generally, on the character for me.

I have a feeling that you specifically mentioned actors and especially eyecolour, since it's an immediately recognizable feature that can't be changed up as easily as most other identifiable traits, such as hairstyle, hair colour, build, and to a certain degree skin tone. Though contacts do exist, technically- and I have actually seen a writer decided that Character A now has 'super dreamy' grey eyes because 'they could, because contacts' even though nothing in the fic made reference or supported it, and only as a response from the writer after they had been called out (I think it was) for getting the eyecolour wrong- it's a pretty heavy push to make and still have the character be recognizable for who they are.

Personally, it bothers me more when writers change the more 'excusable' of recognizable character traits, like hair style, and dye, because in that case it's usually because the writer just doesn't care about who they're actually writing about, or that they're clearly far too worried about showing off how 'mainstream' they ttly r bye pushing their savvy maesthetic skillz on chctr whoo totez needz 'da facelift... kind of thing...
I have a knee jerk reaction to exit out of every fic where a character suddenly has an undercut, and fuck, it's like Oprah's giving them out for free, because everyone seems to have one regardless of if the hairstyle is even popular in the time period of the canon or if it's even suited to the character themselves.

With eye colour I just hold back because chances are the writer just has no clue about what they're writing about and are either going by hearsay, or idk, something else entirely. I'll get through it just to get through it because at least the attempt at trying can sometimes not be completely horrible?

Of course the newer I am in a fandom, and every time I enter a fandom with multiple medias associated with it, I don't judge much at all, unless I know for a fact what the writers are referencing when detailing the character. Like with certain video games/some comics where the original concept art is common knowledge but was rejected for the 'official' look shown in canon, or a book turned movie like Harry Potter where Harry 'has his mothers eyes' but the colour doesn't necessarily need to match.
Fuckm I don't even know what I'm trying to say anymore...basically, shit can be complicated sometimes. Fine in multimedia circumstances and a easy warning sign in basically any other.