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fandomsecrets2008-12-01 04:56 pm
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[ SECRET POST #696 ]
⌈ Secret Post #696 ⌋
Warning: Some secrets are NOT worksafe and may contain SPOILERS.
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Notes:
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Secrets Left to Post: 12 pages, 290 secrets from Secret Submission Post #100.
Secrets Not Posted: [ 0 - broken links ], [ 1 2 3 - not!secrets ], [ 0 - not!fandom ], [ 1 - too big ], [ 0 - repeat ].
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Re: 143 148 155
With John Sheppard I have hours and hours of watching him respond and behave in a whole variety of situations
How is this any different from someone who spends hours and hours watching an actor or reality tv star? In fact, especially when you're comparing a character in an ensemble show like SGA to a popular TV personality like, say, Ryan Seacrest -- who hosts two TV shows and a daily radio program among other things -- RPF canons are often far more extensive. A person who wanted to write fic about Ryan would have hundreds and hundreds of hours of "canon" to work with. How is that like a "walk on guest who shows up for one episode"?
I was actually talking about this the other day, and for me the main difference is ease of consumption -- I write fic for Avatar, and I can say with confidence that I'm familiar with the entire canon of that show, as it's limited to three seasons of television and a few short comics. Also, the canon is easy to agree on -- we know exactly how much of it there is and how to get our hands on it. Whereas with RPF, it's a different animal -- it wouldn't be humanly possible for me to consume every single piece of media Ryan Seacrest has appeared in, and as a writer who likes to stick close to canon that would make me very uncomfortable.
As for original fic -- I don't think
And I'd disagree with your suggestion that all that separates an RPF AU from original fiction is a find-replace on the names -- disagree pretty strongly, actually. Because even if you've changed many things, the readers of an RPF story come in with a lot of basic knowledge and many assumptions -- they know the characters and their relationships with each other, and are already invested IN those characters.
Authors of original fiction are starting from scratch, and so the way they introduce their characters will necessarily be different, as will the kind of story they end up telling, and the lengths they have to go to to get their audience to care.
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It really sounds like there's a huge fanon for the characters, very loosely based on their actual lives and casual relationships, but the relationships in the fics are usually manufactured, because with few exceptions, most of these people aren't boinking their costars -- it's just that it would titillate the writers and their audience to think of them doing so.
So that puts RPF in a weird nethersphere where it isn't actually based on a real person, and yet it still pretends to be based on a real person. There isn't much actual Real Person other than the name -- at least not from the point of view of that Real Person himself. For me this is really messing with the Real Life/Fantasy boundry. Are you writing about real people in the sense of a biographer? If so, is it ethical to make up things about their lives? Or are you writing based on an idealized version of what you wish these people would be like -- and treating them as if they were fictional?
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Or are you writing based on an idealized version of what you wish these people would be like -- and treating them as if they were fictional?
This is closer to the truth. Though instead of "based on an idealized version of what you wish these people would be like" I'd say "based on the public personas they've crafted."
Again, very few people (tinhats excepted) are making any attempt to write about what's "actually" going on. They're writing stories about the public personas of actual people, which are often just as manufactured as the characters actors play.