[ SECRET POST #4895 ]

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⌈ Secret Post #4895 ⌋

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[fscom]

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[(Anonymous)]

Honestly the reason I gave up with Homestuck back in the day. There's only so much convoluted bs I can tolerate.

[(Anonymous)]

I agree and I don't agree.

The thing is tat that I love time travel as a narrative device but it's really hard to use if you try to take it at all seriously instead of using it as a handwavey thing for fun times, because when you take it seriously it almost never makes sense. So it's really easy to fall into trouble with trying to write time travel stories and I think that's why it ends up being a jump the shark thing. But fundamentally, I think it's a good device, people just don't use it right.

[philstar22]

I sort of agree. It doesn't need to be an essential plot point, but it does need to be brought in fairly early on. Like, it isn't essential to Star Trek, but it was a regular plot point. Same with Stargate: SG1. But when it gets only brought up later on to spice things up, that's when it doesn't end up working most of the time.

[sparklywalls]

I'm a life long fan of science fiction and I love basically all the usual staples, including time travel but time travel is the one that annoys me the most the easiest. It's just so common for writers of *anything* (TV, books, you name it) to tie themselves into stupid knots. And half the time nobody can follow their own time travel rules. I don't care if your characters are telling me the rules and you think they're following them, that doesn't magically hide any contradictions your narrative introduces.

But yes unless it's a feature of your universe from the start, it can be quite jarring to have it suddenly dropped on you. On the other hand the time travel episodes of things like Star Trek and Stargate (I actually quite liked the 60s one in SG-1) are fine as a self-contained thing but they're usually not my favourites.

[feotakahari]

Not a Kingdom Hearts fan, I take it?

Essential in what way?

[(Anonymous)]

I feel like if your universe has magic or science/pseudo-science that might as well be magic, time travel is on the table. If they have a god from another planet, or can transport people using matter-energy conversion, or have any number of supernatural creatures, having time travel, even if they don't introduce it early on, wouldn't seem implausible to me.

Re: Essential in what way?

[(Anonymous)]

Seconding this. Also, I kind of assume Endgame is the unspoken example here.

Like, did Endgame use time travel well? IMO, no. But the fact that they used it at all was not a problem for me, give the "anything's possible" vibes I get from the MCU as a whole.

If they'd introduced time travel in, say, Iron Man 2, that would've felt really out of nowhere to me. But by the time we get to Endgame we've got Doctor Strange and Captain Marvel and Vision and the quantum realm in the mix, so time travel is like...sure, why not.

[venusundae]

i love time travel tbh but when it comes out of absolutely nowhere in a story, i am usually put off the whole thing just out of the surprise of it all?

[tabaqui]

I don't think i've ever seen a movie where tt wasn't at some point part of the narrative....trying to think of any where it was just dropped in there out of the blue....

I like it, mostly, except the 'rules' most writers seem to come up with always suck, to me, and they never use it in a way that seems fun or effective.

[(Anonymous)]

MCU

[tabaqui]

I thought the quantum stuff in Antman set it up....?

[(Anonymous)]

DA - Right? Like, you have people exploring the quantum realm. You have a guy who can be shrunk or blown up while (allegedly) retaining his mass. You have a sapient computer program in a manufactured biological body. You have bleeding edge nanotech capable of being an eight-foot metal suit but Tony can somehow wear it on his chest like it's nothing.

Time travel isn't exactly a huge conceptual stretch that comes out of nowhere.

[tabaqui]

Exactly. At that point, you kinda wonder *when* it's going to happen, not if.

[(Anonymous)]

Yeah I agree. Aside from maybe Doctor Who, I'm not a huge fan of time travel plotlines that get thrown in randomly. I don't like time travel fic either. Every time my friend starts speaking glowingly about one I just kinda smile and nod, but I really don't see what the big deal is. :/

[meadowphoenix]

if time travel isn't supposed to make sense (and this flows with the media) then i think it can be fun. but if it's supposed to make sense? urgh

[(Anonymous)]

Endgame
And while it was okay for the film it just brought in a load of headaches because they didn't explain the rules well enough so it left it all confusing.